Let me see if I have this right...

[robsterclaw]

I kind of agree here. I agree that there are lazy F$#* who live off welfare, foodstamps, housing, medicaid, etc.... However there are legit folks out there that do work and just don't make enough and they pay there taxes etc.. and can receive certain government help. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that it's ok for illegal immegrants to just come here and get that stuff BECAUSE IT IS NOT! It is for AMERICANS. U.S. citizens. I have at one point needed Medicaid for my children (before denval420) But I also worked a full time job and paid my bills and taxes by MYSELF. I also have a good friend that has 2 kids is on housing takes care of the place and works 2 jobs. She is AMERICAN. So I feel it's ok if you are AMERICAN and you work.

It's easy to tell the lazy welfare losers, and the hard working down on their luck people. Ask the pizza delivery guy. Seriously! The hard working down on their luck people will tip. Usually a small tip, and they generally only order a special or just pizzas.

The losers order wings, soda, and other sides as well as pizza. They'll stiff you. Why the hell not order a $2.49 soda. I ainst gotsa pay fo it. I get my gubbermint check!

[theGinsue]

In my case, I rented a condo to Littleton Housing Authority section 8- pretty much a free housing for the 'need.' Well few weeks after they moved in, the 2 tenants were actually 2 families of 9, and ICE was looking for some of them. I had to waste half a day standing there looking like a stupid idiot while the ICE guys went through everyone's ID including mine because I was the owner. They were looking for 1 person, ended up picking up 3 of them.

Sorry you had to go through that. I have a friend and co-worker who had his former family primary residence (they moved to a better home) in the program. I had to go with him to serve as a witness for him. We got to the house and found it was abandoned a week before (no notice) and was totally destroyed. It cost him thousands to get it back to rentable state. The .gov folks didn't cover all of the costs as they claimed thet would.

MB888 - Is there a way to have a limitation of "single-family" in your rental agreement ?

I kind of agree here. I agree that there are lazy F$#* who live off welfare, foodstamps, housing, medicaid, etc.... However there are legit folks out there that do work and just don't make enough and they pay there taxes etc.. and can receive certain government help. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that it's ok for illegal immegrants to just come here and get that stuff BECAUSE IT IS NOT! It is for AMERICANS. U.S. citizens. I have at one point needed Medicaid for my children (before denval420) But I also worked a full time job and paid my bills and taxes by MYSELF. I also have a good friend that has 2 kids is on housing takes care of the place and works 2 jobs. She is AMERICAN. So I feel it's ok if you are AMERICAN and you work.

I totally agree with you. i am all for helping people who are truly in need, what gets me is the people who don't work, have tons of kids to claim disabilities for them, and live their entire lives doing nothing productive or trying to get a job.

One thing that really gets me is New Orleans, they had Katrina, got all the help, trailers to live in, money to fix their homes even when they had no insurance, yet I fly over it 5-6 years later and they have blue tarps covering 30-40% of the roofs in a lot of areas, you drive by and you see a decked out never vehicle with 24in rims and spinners.

I agree with you Pr1ncess & you too Sniper. Some people actually need the help but they are doing everything they can to help themselves. It's those folks I have no problem helping. Everyone else can got in the gutter as far as I'm concerned.

Sniper - you mentioned the devastation caused by Katrina. You may recall that AFTER Katrina, Iowa had severe widespread flooding that created just as much devastation - but most of us never heard word one about that in the news - it was barely covered. Those folks didn't get all of the hand-outs and government help and freebies or all of the people coming to help rebuild like N.O. received. I suppose their racial and socio-economic status didn't warrant such aid.

[theGinsue]

It's easy to tell the lazy welfare losers, and the hard working down on their luck people. Ask the pizza delivery guy. Seriously! The hard working down on their luck people will tip. Usually a small tip, and they generally only order a special or just pizzas.

The losers order wings, soda, and other sides as well as pizza. They'll stiff you. Why the hell not order a $2.49 soda. I ainst gotsa pay fo it. I get my gubbermint check!

Anyone ever hear of W.I.C. (stands for Women, Infants, and Children)?
This is an excellent program that helps those families with pregnant women, infants, and/or young children on limited incomes with FOOD. But, not jut ANY food, they tell you exactly what types of food you can get. They limit the brands of breakfast cereals participants can get - none of that hollow-caloried all sugar-no nutritional value stuff... You can't sell the tickets to anyone else. You can't buy steaks, etc. with the coupons - just reasonable nutritional food.

Why can't the "food stamp" program work like that?

[jake]

One thing that really gets me is New Orleans, they had Katrina, got all the help, trailers to live in, money to fix their homes even when they had no insurance, yet I fly over it 5-6 years later and they have blue tarps covering 30-40% of the roofs in a lot of areas, you drive by and you see a decked out never vehicle with 24in rims and spinners.

TBF, when I lived in Florida we were hit directly by a couple of category 3 hurricanes in the space of a month and a year later there were still houses with tarps on the roof - and this was after we had contractors moving in to empty houses and living in teams to do recovery work. After Ivan (I think; the one that came in from the gulf and crossed the center of the state) it took about 18 months to restore power to some people. Katrina was many times worse than anything we went through.

[TS12000]

I totally agree with you. i am all for helping people who are truly in need, what gets me is the people who don't work, have tons of kids to claim disabilities for them, and live their entire lives doing nothing productive or trying to get a job.

One thing that really gets me is New Orleans, they had Katrina, got all the help, trailers to live in, money to fix their homes even when they had no insurance, yet I fly over it 5-6 years later and they have blue tarps covering 30-40% of the roofs in a lot of areas, you drive by and you see a decked out never vehicle with 24in rims and spinners.

Already been posted but goes perfect with your comment...

[Elhuero]

Anyone ever hear of W.I.C. (stands for Women, Infants, and Children)?
This is an excellent program that helps those families with pregnant women, infants, and/or young children on limited incomes with FOOD. But, not jut ANY food, they tell you exactly what types of food you can get. They limit the brands of breakfast cereals participants can get - none of that hollow-caloried all sugar-no nutritional value stuff... You can't sell the tickets to anyone else. You can't buy steaks, etc. with the coupons - just reasonable nutritional food.

Why can't the "food stamp" program work like that?

my mom was a wic nutritionist for years. she has got some good deadbeat stories.

one of the fixes this country needs (along with term limits and a line item veto) is a constitutional end to all welfare.

[BigBear]

Tryin' to keep my mouth shut......

I'm a young guy... I've worked all my stinking life. Even before I was 18 I was on the farm working sun up to past sun down. I work my butt off and barely get by. I went to college and barely get by. I'm not living outside of my means or anything, just have student loans to repay, credit card from moving/etc, and blah blah blah. I have the dreams of owning a nice car, a few firearms, some trumpets, and having fun with life. But boy does it tick me off when I see some of these folks driving $60K cars with their rims and stereos, smoking pot all day and playing video games on their 55 inch brand new TV, etc. Grr... keeping my mouth shut......

One of these days.

[TS12000]

And that is the type of work ethic that needs to be instilled and rewarded. I can even point that finger at myself, I know damn well that my work ethic is not on par with that of my father's generation. Both he and my uncle worked full time jobs and attended prestigious universities full time because their family couldn't provide a cent towards their education. They made (as I'm sure many of the members here have done) their own way with hard, dedicated work. That is something I can look up to, however nowadays the only thing many of my generation knows is that handouts are plentiful so why work hard for anything. It makes me sad everyday to look around and know that hard working, innovative Americans are being weeded out in favor of government dependent clones.

[pr1ncess45]

Anyone ever hear of W.I.C. (stands for Women, Infants, and Children)?
This is an excellent program that helps those families with pregnant women, infants, and/or young children on limited incomes with FOOD. But, not jut ANY food, they tell you exactly what types of food you can get. They limit the brands of breakfast cereals participants can get - none of that hollow-caloried all sugar-no nutritional value stuff... You can't sell the tickets to anyone else. You can't buy steaks, etc. with the coupons - just reasonable nutritional food.

Why can't the "food stamp" program work like that?

I know right. And that also kind of upsets me the (W). What about men. There are some out there that get left behind with babies too. But because they are men they do not qualify. Unless things have changed.I don't know Oh well....

[pr1ncess45]

Tryin' to keep my mouth shut......

I'm a young guy... I've worked all my stinking life. Even before I was 18 I was on the farm working sun up to past sun down. I work my butt off and barely get by. I went to college and barely get by. I'm not living outside of my means or anything, just have student loans to repay, credit card from moving/etc, and blah blah blah. I have the dreams of owning a nice car, a few firearms, some trumpets, and having fun with life. But boy does it tick me off when I see some of these folks driving $60K cars with their rims and stereos, smoking pot all day and playing video games on their 55 inch brand new TV, etc. Grr... keeping my mouth shut......

One of these days.

Yep I know