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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    here is the thing that really caught my eye:
    "According to the Denver Post, February 6, 2008, approximately 500,000 illegal aliens are in Colorado. This annually costs Coloradans $564.1 million for education, $38.4 million for medical costs, and $20 million for prisons. When you add the costs of free breakfasts, lunches, lost taxes of under the table wages, unemployment to illegals, and the unemployment of Coloradans whose jobs have been taken by the illegal workforce, illegal immigration cost the taxpayers of Colorado $1 BILLION ANNUALLY. This is just the money, the illegals are also causing untold strife from drunk driving deaths, rapes, drug trafficking, and murders."
    This is why I just changed my Colorado State witholding exemptions to 9. They aren't going to get my money and then try to give me an IOU when tax time rolls around. I'll put that money in an account and mail you a check in April.
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    I am not anti-immigration, I am married to a Mexican woman, and alot of my friends are Mexican. But I am anti-illegal immigration. In my work I have to check ID's everywhere I go and in Greeley I can tell you there are alot of no US id, fake US id and even fake MX id.

    I does give me the warm fuzzy feeling when the person that cannot produce any state or fed issued ID or passport has 2 brand new vehicles, 3 big screen tv's, nice house (supplied by habitat for humanity) and then you see them at the grocery store buying $300 worth of steak and lobster on food stamps, they take that to the car and go back in and buy $300 worth of beer in cash. When after working all week, paying my familys health ins and TAXES (which pay for there food stamps, medical, and what not) I can only afford $150 for groceries and no damn beer! I need to go to MX city and get me a consulate ID!!! Maybe get a drivers license from Chihuahua

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    Quote Originally Posted by trlcavscout View Post
    I am not anti-immigration, I am married to a Mexican woman, and alot of my friends are Mexican. But I am anti-illegal immigration. In my work I have to check ID's everywhere I go and in Greeley I can tell you there are alot of no US id, fake US id and even fake MX id.

    I does give me the warm fuzzy feeling when the person that cannot produce any state or fed issued ID or passport has 2 brand new vehicles, 3 big screen tv's, nice house (supplied by habitat for humanity) and then you see them at the grocery store buying $300 worth of steak and lobster on food stamps, they take that to the car and go back in and buy $300 worth of beer in cash. When after working all week, paying my familys health ins and TAXES (which pay for there food stamps, medical, and what not) I can only afford $150 for groceries and no damn beer! I need to go to MX city and get me a consulate ID!!! Maybe get a drivers license from Chihuahua
    If any of us tried this in Mexico they'd throw us in the hoosegow. Here, due to the bleeding heart candy ass mentality and seemingly bottomless pit of government funding (confiscated from citizens) illegals get treated better than citizens.

    There are 2 sets of laws in Colorado, one for citizens and a much more lenient set for illegals.

    To answer the OP, yes, things are going to get much worse for citizens. Illegal aliens are quickly realizing that they can murder, rape, and steal without consequence to themselves. My only hope is that those who support and condone illegal aliens and illegal immigration suffer the majority of these crimes.

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    Serious question, with your guestimated of $1billion cost due to these folks, and $2 billion in CO budget shortfall, would you pay an extra tax for ICE enforcement to solve long term problems?

    I know ICE is federal not State, but say CO is to adopt AZ style law and provide facilities for ICE to be more efficient. Would you pay the extra tax?
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    It isn't feasible for the local PD to do what AZ is doing. We have no border with Mexico. ICE would have to be involved, and quite frankly, they are ineffectual. I've dealt with them before on a professional, lateral level and they are worthless as tits on a bull. AZ PD can at least bus the illegals to the border and toss them themselves. CO PD's lose their authority at the border.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trlcavscout View Post
    When after working all week, paying my familys health ins and TAXES (which pay for there food stamps, medical, and what not) I can only afford $150 for groceries and no damn beer!
    I have seen this too...
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    I will buy you a beer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    If any of us tried this in Mexico they'd throw us in the hoosegow.
    Haha, we must be thinking of different countries. Have you ever been to Mexico? You can do whatever you want there. I can't imagine that people leave a country that had 50,000 of their military leave the force and join drug cartels in 2008, go to the US because they know it will be easier to commit crimes up here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    Haha, we must be thinking of different countries. Have you ever been to Mexico? You can do whatever you want there. I can't imagine that people leave a country that had 50,000 of their military leave the force and join drug cartels in 2008, go to the US because they know it will be easier to commit crimes up here.
    Yeah they let those guatemaltecos and salvadorenos just walk right over the border. Mexico is sooo much easier on illegal immigrants that the U.S.

    And for that matter, mexicans are never, ever racist.

    They are even tidier than americans.

    You bunch of racists gotta realize, that if ANYONE is to blame for this whole mess, it sure as hell isn't those gentle mexicans.

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    They let those guys over the boarder when they have drugs, guns, or cash. Mexico has some very strict laws, if you can find someone to enforce them.
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    It is a matter of economic advantage, the gov doesn't pay them dirt and the cartels have pretty deep pockets so of course the cops are going to choose to look the other way

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