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Originally Posted by Stuart
Its not just the tax paying issues, and I agree not all crime is caused by "illegal immigrants" but it is a high number. Problem is most of the time they get deported instead of locked up to save TAX DOLLARS.
It was done alot over the last five years. It wasnt "ghost ID's" it was complete fraud basically. Look at a few of the banks that got shut down by the feds, they have an entire "task force" investigating it. There were local and national lenders involved. So no it wasnt there fake ID's getting them the loans, it was greedy people forging papers. You are right.
Good night guys.
Good discussion today. I probably won't be on the computer much tomorrow. See you around.
"There are no finger prints under water."
Mass deportation??? Im all for booting them and locking down the border. All the fighting down there it needs to happen anyways.
oldie but goodie
I’m planning to move my family and extended family into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.
We’re planning to simply walk across the border from the U.S. Into Mexico, and we’ll need your help to make a few arrangements.
We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws.
I’m sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Calderon, that I’m on my way over?
Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:
1. Free medical care for my entire family.
2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.
3. Please print all Mexican government forms in English.
4. I want my grandkids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.
5. Tell their schools they need to include classes on American culture and history.
6. I want my grandkids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.
7. Please plan to feed my grandkids at school for both breakfast and lunch.
8. I will need a local Mexican driver’s license so I can get easy access to government services.
9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico , but, I don’t plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won’t make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.
10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.
11. I plan to fly the U.S. Flag from my house top, put U S. Flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.
12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.
13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.
14. I want to receive free food stamps.
15. Naturally, I’ll expect free rent subsidies.
16. I’ll need Income tax credits so although I don’t pay Mexican Taxes, I’ll receive money from the government.
17. Please arrange it so that the Mexican Gov’t pays $4,500 to help me buy a new car.
18. Oh yes, I almost forgot, please enroll me free into the Mexican Social Security program so that I’ll get a monthly income in retirement.
I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all his people who walk over to the U..S. From Mexico . I am sure that President Calderon won’t mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.
Thank you so much for your kind help. You da man!!!
3 things that need to happen here:
1) Get the idiots in charge to not only untie the hands of ICE so they can do their jobs but also increase the funding. (Mass deportation – Operation Wetback – Round ‘em up and ship ‘em out)
2) Close the border once and for all.
3) Enforce the penalties for hiring illegals. This could easily be done if #1 would be done and raids were allowed again.
The reason for doing away with anchor babies is.
Soon to be parents come across the US border to have their kids because of the anchor baby status. The bleeding hearts can’t stand the thought of splitting up a family, and the kid is a US citizen, so naturally the parents can’t be deported. –BS ship them all back. When the child turns 18 maybe they have the time limited right to apply for citizenship to the US legally, and jump to the head of the line. But the fact is these anchor baby parents come here to have their kid so they can collect all the freebies (their kids are citizens after all). Maybe that is why I have seen so many illegal families with 5,6 even 8 kids (yes I know for a fact they were illegal – they freely admitted it). Just sucking on those freebies. Don’t even attempt to tell me that doesn’t happen a regular and frequent basis. I lived in Phoenix and saw it first hand day in and day out.
For those people that say another “Operation Wetback” is just a knee jerk reaction, answer these questions:
- How about identity theft? Ever hear of that? Don't you believe that is criminal activity, not to mention very expensive.
Put the issue of the costs of illegals aside for a second (though I completely agree they are costly), also put aside the added crime rate (again, I agree completely).
- How many terrorist sleeper cells exist in the USA today? Don’t know? Nobody does. Why not? Because we have no idea who is in this country!! That is one more reason I favor mass deportation. As soon as someone is found to be in this country illegally, kick them out. Until all illegals are deported and the border is sealed, we will never know who is here.
@Nix easier said and done.
1. ICE is not functional, dumping money into it makes no sense. Have you ever gone through their system - Holy shiet! Talking about maze of bureaucracy.
2. BEST BET SO FAR!!! where is the FED in this?!
3. Businesses have liability insurances which cover their legal fees. Most claimed the illegals provided them legal ID and paper per Fed law, and they play dumb. ICE hardly ever go after employers because of the cost to prosecute them.
1- That's what I was saying by untie their hands. Do away with the BS, paper pushing bureaucracy.
3 - True for the most part, but I have seen employers hire people who give SS#s like 89390878653. Obviously fake.
-Yes I turned them in, Employee and employer. The business shut down about 2 weeks later after a raid by Sheriff Joe.
Thank you!
@Nix,
Understood. In my opinion to solve these issues, we can start with...
1. BACKGROUND CHECK/PATRIOT ACT CHECK + DRUG TEST on all welfare recipients (From Federal level down to the 'non profit' organization if they want tax write off and keep their non profit status).
2. AZ style LEO empowerment
3. Last and least likely, run BG & Patriot act check on ALL new employees.
I run BG checks for private banks all the time due to the increasing frauds etc.. why not run it on all of them. 2 minutes turn around through our system! 24 hours turn around time on SSN check if their bday doesnt match their SSN issued date. We'll weed out the dumbasses from receiving tax payer fund with the drug test too!
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