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    Default It might get worse for us in CO

    Just looking for some illegal immigration issues for CO and found Ritter has failed us in the past (obviously),

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    here is the thing that really caught my eye:
    "According to the Denver Post, February 6, 2008, approximately 500,000 illegal aliens are in Colorado. This annually costs Coloradans $564.1 million for education, $38.4 million for medical costs, and $20 million for prisons. When you add the costs of free breakfasts, lunches, lost taxes of under the table wages, unemployment to illegals, and the unemployment of Coloradans whose jobs have been taken by the illegal workforce, illegal immigration cost the taxpayers of Colorado $1 BILLION ANNUALLY. This is just the money, the illegals are also causing untold strife from drunk driving deaths, rapes, drug trafficking, and murders."

    There was another thread in reference to our public education, and like every other .gov program, it needs some work. I know this first hand, a lot more than probably most everyone else here.

    seeing that illegal aliens cost the state close to 1 Billion absolutely blows my mind. I knew the costs were high, but didn't know they were this high.
    Now this all all in 2008, maybe the numbers have dropped with the recession, but with AZ's new bill I can be pretty positive we are going to see and increase in illegals...which Ritter is going to do nothing about.

    Now there is another bill that just passed the senate:
    http://www.aspentimes.com/article/20...ntProfile=1058

    I agree with a lot of the points in the bill but it definitely needs to work to be effective for teachers, students and the tax payers. hopefully those issues can be addressed. the only problem with this bill is the amount of money it will cost to retrain evaluators under new standards (since it is .gov work it will be ridiculously high i am sure).

    Right now the budget has been cut about 2.5 million for next year in my local district (27J), which put several new teachers out of a job. the other issues are that next year class sizes are going to increase (probably even more than expected with illegal immigrants coming to CO). that just means kids are going to get less one on one with teachers, less learning will happen, it becomes harder for kids to pay attention and harder for teachers to keep things on task in the classroom.

    So I guess what I am getting to is illegal immigration, even it cut in half, 500 million a year could get pumped into the school systems to start improving public education...it is after all our, our tax dollars being used to pay the teachers, teach the illegals, feed them lunches etc. not to mention anyone that is looking for a job or unemployed currently would have their chances of finding a job increased significantly.

    It is too bad we have a governor that wants to take away from those that teach most of our kids, eliminate programs to keep them out of trouble during and after school and let the illegals have their way with the state. something to remember when we start thinking about the candidates.
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    Unfortunately, I think it is going to be worse than you think. Once Arizona's new immigration enforcement law goes into effect all those illegals will go elsewhere. Which is more likely;

    1) They will go back to thier country of origin.
    2) They will move on to another state that does not have a law like this.

    Most likely the answer is #2.

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    When NAFTA was passed back in the early 90's my Dad said, " This place is going to look like Mexico". He of course, was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nix View Post
    Unfortunately, I think it is going to be worse than you think. Once Arizona's new immigration enforcement law goes into effect all those illegals will go elsewhere. Which is more likely;

    1) They will go back to thier country of origin.
    2) They will move on to another state that does not have a law like this.

    Most likely the answer is #2.

    Yeah I pointed option #2 and said they would probably come here, just sad Ritter won't do anything about it.
    I know Utah introduced similar legislation, almost identical to AZ
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    I bet it's easierto cross the border into Colorado too .

    Sniper, are you an admin or teacher or something?

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    "Yeah I pointed option #2" - Sorry, misread that statement.

    If I remember right; TX, UT, and one other state are introducing similar bills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TS12000 View Post
    I bet it's easierto cross the border into Colorado too .

    Sniper, are you an admin or teacher or something?

    no I come from a family of teachers, I just drive airplanes
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    Sniper7:that sounds like fun! lucky

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    Ah I see

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    Quote Originally Posted by TS12000 View Post
    Ah I see
    I do substitute though on some of my days off. not a full out certified teacher, but couldn't get that pretty quick with some extra college courses if I desired
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