I appreciate your enthusiasm, but you're behind in the debate here. Allow me to catch you up.

1) Don't ever say "There's a lot of good arguments for decriminalizing drug use, that's not one of them." to me again. That is my line. I use it all the time. The reason that didn't sound like a reason to decriminalize drugs, is because it wasn't. That's not what we are talking about. I was giving, what I thought was, a very simple analogy to point out the difference between punishing someone for something, and providing a solution to fixing the problem. I used drug use because it is similar to immigration in that punishing the people who are caught for using, does nothing to curb other people from using. I didn't want to use drugs, because I wanted to avoid this exact issue of someone losing focus of the issue and making incorrect assumptions about my personal feelings of drug use. If you very honestly think that the possibility of getting into trouble has ever stopped a significant number of people from using drugs, then I can tell you right now that you and I will never have a productive discussion about drugs. If you'd like to talk about drugs, start another thread, or use the search function and look for some of my other posts.

2) Yes, I fully support the bill in Arizona. I've stated that over and over on here, but no one seems to understand that. You get a pass because you just recently joined and have obviously only read posts of mine from as far back as May 1st.

3) I've never said that illegal immigration didn't cost tax payers money. I said that all of the solutions I've seen suggested thus far are stupid at best.