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    Default Video of Swat raid in Columbia MO

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbwSw...ayer_embedded#!

    So the police say they had information that this guy was a drug dealer and that the kid wasn't at home. They knock on the door and give the guy <10 seconds to answer before kicking it in (if it's dark out, I take a while to get to answer the door as well). Once in the house they shoot and kill one dog in front of the family. And in the end they find that the guy has a pipe and a small bag of weed. The dad gets arrested and charged with drug related charges as well as child endangerment.

    Stories like this seem to be getting more popular. The police claim to have information, then use a ton of force (maybe shooting a dog could be considered excessive force?), and once all goes down they realize their info was "not completely correct". In the end the officers get a slap on the wrist. I know LEOs have to be ready for any situation, and there's probably a lot going on behind the scenes, but that seems wrong, where's the accountability?

    I would be livid if that happened to my family. I'm also afraid that if somebody kicked in the front door and started shooting it would end badly for both of us.

    Does anybody else have the same take on this as me? What are your thoughts on this?

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    That's just sad. It's really disturbing to know how frequently these things happen. Dumb MOTHER$&#37;#*&^ getting the wrong house and blaming it on misinformation. And you have to sit there and take it up the ass being a law abiding citizen. Yes I know in this case they were probably far from law abiding. But the cases of no knock raids and completely getting the wrong house?

    And shooting the dog was excessive. What dog isn't going to bark when someone storms in your house. I didn't even hear the thing growling.

    If someone kicks down my door during night hours it will be bad for everyone in the room.
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    Edited: I think a little compassion and politeness would go a long way when it comes to LEO and civilian interaction. There were "wrongs" on both sides. Can't say much due to poor operation of Mr. Camera-man.

    Shoot my dog and I WILL kill you whether I'm in cuffs or not.

    Thank God I don't have to make those descisions.
    Last edited by BigBear; 05-07-2010 at 11:01.

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    This isn't the first time this has happened. The police have shot and killed people in the wrong house before with ZERO accountability. The police have also been shot and killed when entering the wrong house, and the shooter was charged with murder. Totally unacceptable.

    The percentage of wrong addresses may be low, but the consequences are very huge. Maybe the police should ask the local pizza delivery guy to assist if they are unsure where someone lives. Hell, I think it'd work better if they had an undercover disguise themselves as a door to door (anything) and get the person to answer the door first (at least try) and see if the undercover can get a positive ID on the suspect. That's at least worth a shot and doesn't seem like it'd be very risky for the undercover. How often do you hear about door to door sales people being gunned down?
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    Uuuuggghh....

    I wish i had not what that this morning.
    I have a big mouth and lots of opinions.
    But today I will leave it at: Uuuughhh! Really?
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    Why get outraged? Nothing new here.

    Those officers would have shot the wife and kid as well if they had felt "in danger" enough.

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    If someone kicked my door in and shot my dog, then asked me what my name was, I'd be pretty pissed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    If someone kicked my door in and shot my dog, then asked me what my name was, I'd be pretty pissed.

    I'm not trying to talk big or whatever, but definitely a +1. They'd have to tranq me or something to get me under control after shooting my dog...

    My dog is an absolutely wonderful creature... For all intensive purposes, he is my son.







    Does that mean I'm an old dog? HAHA.

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    shot your CAGED dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBear View Post
    I'm not trying to talk big or whatever, but definitely a +1. They'd have to tranq me or something to get me under control after shooting my dog...

    My dog is an absolutely wonderful creature... For all intensive purposes, he is my son.







    Does that mean I'm an old dog? HAHA.
    I don't think that's talking big at all. I believe any real man will do what is neccessary to protect all the family members/loved ones of the house, no matter who comes knocking.

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