On Fox right now.

[palepainter]

So if you don't mind people on the No-fly list from purchasing guns would you care to explain to me how one ends up on the no-fly list? How one gets their name off of it if they're not there legitimately?

Remember, Ted Kennedy found himself bumped from a flight because he was on the no-fly list.


This is the same government who's Department of Homeland Security released a booklet detailing how gun owners, "constitutionalists" ,returning war veterans and tax protesters are "potential terrorists".

All they need to do is get their hands on a copy of the NRA member list and BAM we're all "prohibited persons" overnight.


Hell, as for keeping felons from buying guns ... I think you'd be amazed what minor crimes (and things you'd never think were crimes) are classified as felonies. I think you'd be amazed what innocent things you've done that could easily be construed into a felony.

As you may have noticed in my post, I mentioned if they didnt find a way to take it any further. I agree that the way things have been going, they will find a way to get a whole bunch of us on no fly lists. For now, I have not had any problems flying.

[KevDen2005]

There is a senate hearing on the bombing attempt at times square. The NYC Mayor Bumburg is using it as a platform to pursuade the senate to install gun control. I think I am going to puke. The Police Chief Ray Kelly is describing incidents where weapons have been involved with Ak56's and other semi autos . Dumbass. Their point is that stopping guns is going to stop terrorists.

Thank God I live in the west. When I was stationed out there all I could think of is, God you are all such pussies....

[Zundfolge]

As you may have noticed in my post, I mentioned if they didnt find a way to take it any further. I agree that the way things have been going, they will find a way to get a whole bunch of us on no fly lists. For now, I have not had any problems flying.

I would argue that the PURPOSE of the proposed legislation is to "find a way to take it further".

[Irving]

... I think you'd be amazed what minor crimes (and things you'd never think were crimes) are classified as felonies. I think you'd be amazed what innocent things you've done that could easily be construed into a felony.

Stealing cable in certain places is a felony. There should be no such thing as a non-violent felony.


Looks like you can easily dig right under the fence in a few minutes. Also, I'm guessing the post with the camera makes it very easy to climb over the barbed wire.

[palepainter]

I would argue that the PURPOSE of the proposed legislation is to "find a way to take it further".

I wouldn't argue with you one bit there. Let's hope not.

[clublights]

Stealing cable in certain places is a felony. There should be no such thing as a non-violent felony.

car theft?
burglary?

[TS12000]

Ah man but I have some land in MN

[Zundfolge]

car theft?
burglary?

I can see the point of non-violent felonies ... certainly what Bernie Madoff did should be on the level of a felony.

HOWEVER, I don't believe one should PERMANENTLY lose a constitutional right for a non-violent felony.

And frankly I wouldn't mind if the law barring violent felons from possessing arms going away. If you can be trusted out of jail, you should be trusted with all your rights (and its not like the laws against felons possessing arms does a damn thing to stop violent felons ... no its just the guy that screwed up in his youth and wrote a bad check that is unable to defend his family 20 years later).

[theGinsue]

Dumbass. Their point is that stopping guns is going to stop terrorists.

Well, they're almost right... A good high caliber "stopping gun" can certainly stop a terrorist (or two, or...)!

[theGinsue]

Maybe the 3 propane tanks were for a "Jihad BBQ". We are just too quick to jump to conclusions.

Yeah, I'm guessing it wouldn't have been for pulled pork, or pork ribs, or pork sausage....

ETA:

If the primary meat for this "Jihad BBQ" was supposed to be long pork I'm sure you are right!

Dang, I'm coming into this rodeo a little late...again.