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    Sheriff Joe is running things right. Convicts should not have luxuries in pirson or jail. They are in that place for a reason... TS has a great idea with the farm.

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    I full heartedly believe that once you have paid your debt to society you're done but why not give them some actual skills so they can reintegrate into society instead of crime once they get out. Here's two solutions in one: set up the aforementioned farms, then when they get out they can take those jobs "no American will take" that illegals seem to fill so well picking produce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TS12000 View Post
    I love the idea of actually having these people do something constructive and cost cutting. I always wondered why prisons didn't have large farms next door as a way to cheaply raise and harvest a portion of the food supply for the inmates by the inmates.
    I think the long term issue with getting law's to pass for this are one little issue.......( not that I agree but I can see the bleeding hearts jumping alllll over this ) .. since the majority of prisoners in this country are black ......... " forcing them " to work on a farm looks an awfully lot like slavery.

    Of course the simple solution is .. don;t like it don;t go to jail .. but hey since when have liberals ever had logic ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    ^^^ Didn't someone deem forced labor of inmates to be "cruel and unusual"? It upsets me when I see/hear about prisoners getting so many extras and "nice to have's" when there are hard working & law-abiding folks who can't afford those same luxuries.
    His chain gangs are not forced, they are optional. The prisoners are paid (about a quarter an hour, or just a bit more). They can use the money to buy their meals, small comfort items (envelopes, pencils, etc.), or they can save it for when they are released.

    FWIW, Maricopa County's recidivism rate is less than half of the national average....

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    Sheriff Joe has the right idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    His chain gangs are not forced, they are optional. The prisoners are paid (about a quarter an hour, or just a bit more). They can use the money to buy their meals, small comfort items (envelopes, pencils, etc.), or they can save it for when they are released.

    FWIW, Maricopa County's recidivism rate is less than half of the national average....
    you beat me to it- all of these programs are voluntary- you can sit and rot in your cell (or tent), or you can get out and see "the outside" by volunteering.. Prisoners that volunteer are more employable when they are released- so it's a win-win

    there ARE some of these programs at the prisons in Fremont Co.. there is a brand of tomatos called "Hothouse".. they're grown by the prisoners- they have a horse & dog training program, too.. but they should incorporate much of the cost cutting programs, too

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    you know in all honesty his prison sounds MORE comfortable then most.

    If you had 5 years of hard time,

    what would you rather do?

    Work in an animal shelter?

    Or sit around a cell doing nothing?

    He gives them opportunity to work, provides them with a chance to develop skill sets and personal responsibility.

    Hell, they should consider that guy a SAINT.

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    I saw a 20/20 a while back about a wild horse program (probably the one 68 is referring to) and it seemed like it gave these guys hope and skill, extremely important for life once you get out. Of course voluntary programs probably draw a huge amount of people who are gonna try to reintegrate in society when their term is served anyways, but it's a good start.

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    You think we could get Joe to run for president?

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