More Piss poor judgment?

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Am I missing something here? I'm not a LEO, so my question is really a question, not rhetorical. The LEO shoots the guy, then when we see him on camera his gun is holstered and he draws it again?? Why would you shoot someone, holster your weapon, approach the guy and then draw your weapon again?

???

I noticed that too. Maybe the gunman on the grassy knoll took the first shot.

Draw, bang, holster, draw, warning. Brilliant, the most dangerous form of dyslexia.

Does the cop say anything before he shoots? The defense seems to try to make a deal out of the riders turn and hand position, but how else do you turn?

If there are any cops on the thread, it seems a bit extreme to pull the gun for a bunny rabbit start. Be interesting to see the videos from other speeding stops of motorcycles with this department.

I'd guess that the victim was watching his buddy thinking 'dumb-ass' when he gets shot in the back.

Interesting that the other unit was there too. I think those guys were going to get pulled over at that intersection no matter what.

I can understand why people think that there must be something else to the story, it is just too hard to beleive that.

I think the cop is going to see a number of negligent discharges when he is prison.

[trlcavscout]

I think the cop is going to see a number of negligent discharges when he is prison.

[iamhunter]

The story gives plenty of information.

The cop pulled the guy over for a traffic stop,

the guy did NOTHING. Regardless of perceived threat, there wasn't even a furtive movement!

All you have is a trigger happy cop who shot a guy in the back.

What the hell?

He shouldn't be getting assault with a deadly weapon, he should be getting attempted murder.

[Elhuero]

I'm not anti-cop, but I find myself unable to frame any comment to this incident that wouldn't make me seem so.

[BuffCyclist]

It is hard to say what was going through the cops mind, and yes he did have a split second to react.

However, if the motorcyclist had a gun and was pulling it on the cop, he would have done so on the left side of his body (think pointing the pistol below the left armpit).

To turn right all the way around on a motorcycle like that is VERY difficult (I know, I ride, well rode before I sold my bike recently). If he were left handed, then his right arm wouldn't be jerked back like that and have been a perceived threat of holding a firearm.

Now, if you have ever been on a motorcycle and pulled over. You know that with your helmet on, you have limited range of vision and almost no periphery. It's possible he heard something (a noise) come from behind him on the right and that caused him to turn to see what it was. I know that lately, when I've seen people be pulled over, two cops always approach the vehicle.

Lastly, when I was pulled over on my motorcycle once late at night around 3am I was scared shitless. I kept my hands on the bars, waited until the cop got next to me and then asked if I could lift my visor. Then, after he could see my eyes (and the fear in them, lol) I asked if I could remove my helmet. Cops do presume a lot with motorcyclists, as a helmet can be used as a weapon (it's heavy and the straps can act as a swinging device). But that's also because of the preconceived notions of motorcyclists being law breakers with speed and driving wrecklessly, which sucks for us.

But without knowing EXACTLY what was going on in the video, it's hard to say anything. I'm only commenting on how I perceive it to have happened. It is definitely ashame that it went down that way, hopefully the rider gets a large settlement and doesn't have to worry about not working the rest of his life.

[iamhunter]

But without knowing EXACTLY what was going on in the video, it's hard to say anything.

I'm not trying to call you out, but this just isn't the case.

Whatever the circumstances, whatever "threat" the cop claims to have "perceived", it doesn't matter.

The man was shot in the back. There was no furtive movement or vocal threat in the video,

the cop just gets out, draws down on the guy, and shoots him in the back.

Even if he feared for his life, the cop won't get ANY sympathy from me.

If you wanna be a cop, you have to be willing to hold yourself to a higher standard than that. You have to be willing to risk taking a bullet in the preservation of the people.

Shooting a man in the back because you were scared is NOT ok.

He took an oath, accepted the power that came with that oath, and then GROSSLY abused that power, and destroyed a man's life.

A shot placement a few inches to the left, and he could've TAKEN that man's life.

Unless the article made an error, and there was in fact a weapon, then there is no excuse.

I am not anti-cop at all, but I'm tired of cops putting themselves above the people they swear to protect.

Protect and serve, or get the hell off our payroll.

[Irving]

Well, maybe if the biker didn't have such dark tinted windows, the police officer would have felt more at ease. Officers never know who is behind the wheel or what they are doing.

[SU405]

I think the cop is going to see a number of negligent discharges when he is prison.

Brilliant!



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