Re: Immigration -- Common Sense is Wrong?

[Hoosier]

While I would be fine with allowing more guest worker access if we actually enforced the return trips I think what we see now is not immigration for jobs but immagration for services.

Not sure what you mean about immigration for services -- like they come here for services? Welfare and government handouts are a different issue, and should be addressed as it applies to not just immigrants but the truely destitute, down on their luck, and people who abuse the system to live without ever working. I don't know what it's like to have absolutely nothing, and I don't know what services the government provides to someone who refuses to work, but that shouldn't be related.

close up the border. Anyone coming across at that point is a bad guy because the good guys can use the front door.

Yes, it would make securing the border much easier if the load was so much lower, I think.

BTW, I would not take factcheck.org as a good source of info. It has a bias as well.

Where did you hear that they are biased? Here, ironically, is FactCheck fact checking Snopes, http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/snopescom/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FactCheck

Of course, as with everytime I cite anything, people claim there's a bias. I guess bias is going to be left to the opinion of the person making the claim. I would presume someone out there really believes that MSNBC has no bias. Or that Fox News is really "fair and balanced."

One of the more interesting citations from the FactCheck piece was the CATO Institute link, a group that obviously has a point of view they're behind (Libertarianism). I find a lot of what I see from them to be bang on. That's no doubt due to my own libertarian bent.

H.