MARINE on trial for 'murdering' a gang member.

[ChunkyMonkey]

http://www.sgvtribune.com/ci_15057503

Marine testifies in murder trial of Iraq war veteran

By Thomas Himes Staff Writer
Posted: 05/10/2010 06:57:01 PM PDT

POMONA - A Marine took the witness stand Monday in the trial of an Iraq war veteran accused of killing a 19-year-old gang member during a shootout in Valinda.

Carlos Chavira, a former Marine who served two combat tours in Ramadi, Iraq, has been charged with murdering Walter Zomoza in a shootout on Feb. 10, 2009.

Fellow rifle platoon member Ritchie Hatch testified Chavira remained mild tempered despite the cramped living conditions and ongoing combat that angered other Marines.

"I can legitimately say I don't remember him ever being angry," Hatch said. "We all like to rub each other the wrong way a little ... everyone blew up at least once, except (Chavira)."



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What a BS...! 3 gang members approached his vehicle in a gas station and shot him on the shoulder. The Marine fired back with his legal sidearm and killed one of the attackers. Now he is on murder trial!

[ChunkyMonkey]

http://www.sgvtribune.com/ci_15089319

Witness to Valinda shootout says gang members shot first

By Thomas Himes, Staff Writer
Posted: 05/14/2010 05:19:01 PM PDT

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Map of 2010 San Gabriel Valley and Whittier-area homicides.
POMONA - A witness to the Valinda shootout that left a gang member dead and a former Marine charged with his murder testified Friday the gang members shot first.

Cinthia Cisneros testified she was standing about 10 feet away when three gang members opened fire on Carlos Chavira.

Chavira, a former Marine and Iraq war veteran, is charged with murder and two counts of attempted murder stemming from the Feb. 10, 2009 shootout.



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[Irving]

California. /thread

[splogan]

Well I have not read everything but if he was fired on first and killed the guy and is now on charges it exemplifies what is wrong with California. Can we please annex them from the union now, they can even have the president and we will find another.

[Roger]

In a perverted sense, this is good for the Marine.

Back in the early 80's all police officers that were in gun fights were charged. If you killed someone you were charged with murder. They did not just choose to press charges or not. The case was presented to the grand jury and they decided. If they were on your side they returned a no true bill. Or you went to trial. If you got a no true bill, or were found not guilty, then it could never be brought up again. At least not criminally. So it was done.

That meant that it could not be held against you in any future promotional exams, or internal investigations. And the DA looked good for not ignoring it or just giving you a pass.

So, if they charge him and he is found not guilty, in a sense, its better for him then them deciding not to press charges at all. And the local government won't get torched for not charging him. Or just sweeping it under the rug so to speak.

[TS12000]

In a perverted sense, this is good for the Marine.

Back in the early 80's all police officers that were in gun fights were charged. If you killed someone you were charged with murder. They did not just choose to press charges or not. The case was presented to the grand jury and they decided. If they were on your side they returned a no true bill. Or you went to trial. If you got a no true bill, or were found not guilty, then it could never be brought up again. At least not criminally. So it was done.

That meant that it could not be held against you in any future promotional exams, or internal investigations. And the DA looked good for not ignoring it or just giving you a pass.

So, if they charge him and he is found not guilty, in a sense, its better for him then them deciding not to press charges at all. And the local government won't get torched for not charging him. Or just sweeping it under the rug so to speak.

Unless a jury of brainwashed Commiefornians find him guilty then there is a shitstorm for all involved.

[palepainter]

In a perverted sense, this is good for the Marine.

Back in the early 80's all police officers that were in gun fights were charged. If you killed someone you were charged with murder. They did not just choose to press charges or not. The case was presented to the grand jury and they decided. If they were on your side they returned a no true bill. Or you went to trial. If you got a no true bill, or were found not guilty, then it could never be brought up again. At least not criminally. So it was done.

That meant that it could not be held against you in any future promotional exams, or internal investigations. And the DA looked good for not ignoring it or just giving you a pass.

So, if they charge him and he is found not guilty, in a sense, its better for him then them deciding not to press charges at all. And the local government won't get torched for not charging him. Or just sweeping it under the rug so to speak.

That procedure makes sense in order to keep Cali from being liable due to the fact that the LEO is a state, local employee. But in this case, the guy is a former Marine. Curious as to how this will work out.

[low drag]

In a perverted sense, this is good for the Marine.

Back in the early 80's all police officers that were in gun fights were charged. If you killed someone you were charged with murder. They did not just choose to press charges or not. The case was presented to the grand jury and they decided. If they were on your side they returned a no true bill. Or you went to trial. If you got a no true bill, or were found not guilty, then it could never be brought up again. At least not criminally. So it was done.

That meant that it could not be held against you in any future promotional exams, or internal investigations. And the DA looked good for not ignoring it or just giving you a pass.

So, if they charge him and he is found not guilty, in a sense, its better for him then them deciding not to press charges at all. And the local government won't get torched for not charging him. Or just sweeping it under the rug so to speak.

Read the entire article. The Marine is still in jail pending $2 million bail.
Cop/jailer stated gun was semi-auto, gun taking off Marine in ER was revolver, no mention of caliber (stupid) and said officer stated Marine shot first.
Simple self defense shooting with a California twist, we mere citizens dare not defend ourselves from thugs.

[ChunkyMonkey]

In a perverted sense, this is good for the Marine.

Too bad meanwhile he is in jail and spending money that he doesnt have on lawyer fee etc. Judge decided there is enough evidence for Jury to hear - that's the bad part for him!