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    Grand Master Know It All 68Charger's Avatar
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    I'm with Stuart on the Felony- the punishment needs to fit the crime..

    but on this ruling, I'm with clublights & Ginsue.. the only way it should be possible is if there are very clearly defined criteria as to how it's deployed..

    When they're released, they're under authority a probation/parole officer who can dictate if they have a GPS unit on them, they report to at least weekly, (also to therapy weekly, and undergo periodic polygraphs, etc) they have to have everything they do cleared by the PO, and can issue a warrant for their arrest on just suspicion.. but to incarcerate them indefinitely without due process? I'd be more for chemical or actual castration for the hard cases...

    I have second hand knowledge of the sex offender system in Fremont county (long story, I was called as a witness since I went to the same church), and it's certainly not flawless.. I'd agree with the hardass approach on violent cases- but you'd probably be surprised the grey areas that can get labeled as sex offenders... some counties see it as a revenue stream. (who do you think pays for the therapy, GPS unit, etc?) and some have lost small fortunes to lawyers to defending false or over-reaching accusations.

    between this and the idea of people on a unknown no-fly list being denied firearms purchases, and you've got a real basis for a police state.. without controls in place to ensure it's not abused, it's more dangerous than the criminals.. specific criteria when it applies, when it's no longer applicable, what can get you off the list if you're there erroneously, etc..

    But this is where it starts- with the demonized.. "sex" offenders, terrorists.. while they work to broaden the definition: "suspected" terrorists, "possible" sex offenders, until they can pretty much nab anyone they want with a simple story of what they "think" he was going to do- if it's horrible enough, people will buy into the idea that it's worth violating HIS/HER rights to keep all of US safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    if it's horrible enough, people will buy into the idea that it's worth violating HIS/HER rights to keep all of US safe.
    I'd rather die in some "atrocity" before I allowed pre-emptive crime to exist.

    Anyone seen Minority Report?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamhunter View Post
    Anyone seen Minority Report?

    Nope, should I go rent it?

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    Yes Bear.

    I don't like this ruling. No point in being sentenced at all if it's not going to mean anything.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    Yes Bear.
    Rgr, it's on the list.

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