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    Default 9mm ammo grain question

    So it's my understanding the lighter the grain the faster and the higher the grain the slower but harder hitting. I've always seen 115gr 9mm was the best but when it comes to target shooting I don't care. I used Corbon 115gr +P for a while. I picked up my new G19 today and wanted to try the Hornady Critical Defense but never really see it anywhere for the caliber I want so I settled for Remmington Home Defense 124gr. I've heard the 147gr wasn't a much desired grain but I took a wild leap and am gonna try it. Blah Blah sorry bout the rammble but my question is what do you guys think about 124gr for home is it better than 115gr?

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    124's have the highest rating as far as a defense roundin a pistol. The 147's are usually sub-sonic and can be shot through a can pretty quietly. A lot of "cheaper" guns have probelms with the 147's. I belive that the 147's are hard to beat from a carbine as far as 9mm's go.

    Therefore I keep 124's in the pistols and 147's in the carbines....

    Since the 9mm amm has jumped by leaps and bounds since the 1986 Miami FBI shootout. My belief is that any premium ammo is sufficient by most manufacturers. The Cor-Bon +P used to the the shizzle. I don't feel that it is the best available these days; but not a bad round by a long shot.

    115's use usually best left to training ammo as most is FMJ.
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    Cool! I think you guys hit it. Environment wise Yes I would say wether in the home or on the street I'm thinking face to face I want to make sure it does what's needed and less penetration to avoid hitting any background objects.

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    Pretty sure I read it here that 147gr rounds can cause problems with your firearm if it's not top of the line. I carry Federal Hydra Shok 124gr in my Glock 17 and Glock 26. I'm not a fan of +p corbon but that's a personal preference.

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    I reload 124s for plinking/competition and for self defense. Different bullets obviously but the 115s don't always knock down steel and I don't want to use more powder to get the 147s out there because of added recoil and less control.

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    Not trying to rain on any 9mm parade but the above reasons are why I shoot a 38 Super. For informal plates I like the 124's @ 1100 and can push 147's @ 1200 if need be. Many more options in my case and if you load then the cost of ammo is kind of a moot point.

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    The bigger question Adawg is why did you go to such a sissy round?


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    If in doubt, shoot 124's. Not all 9mm's like 147gr bullets. I know CZs in peticular won't typically stablize a 147gr bullet. In competition, I shoot 147s almost exclusively. Out of my G17 and G34 their recoil is so soft, it feels like cheating. I have to down-spring the guns to run them reliably though. They take the steel targets down better than the lighter bullets too.

    When I was an agent, I started out carrying 147gr hydro-shocks, but they wouldn't make it through the front window of a vehicle. So, we switched to 124 Fed HPs as they had better Ke and could penetrate the safety glass.

    Handguns, by their very nature, are pretty underpowered and not meant to be used as an offensive weapon. Shoot what's accurate from your gun first. If you have to shoot, keep shooting till the threat is gone. It doesn't really matter to the guy what you're shooting him with if you keep pulling the trigger while on target. If you want one shot stopping power in a pistol, carry a 44 mag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DD977GM2 View Post
    The bigger question Adawg is why did you go to such a sissy round?


    I really just wanted a decent carry and something cheap to shoot so I can get good using my pistol. I love the Glock and boxes of ammo are about $4-$5 a box cheaper than the .40 and it adds up. I still plan on a nice 1911 and if things go better down the road I may carry that.

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    I saw someone on AR15.com say that heavier bullets usually have a higher POI (point of impact) with the same POA (point of aim). If the bullet weighs more and uses less powder, I don't see how this is possible.
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