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Chalk up another "victory" for gun control...
This time in the UK.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/06...thern-england/
At Least 5 People Dead in U.K. Shooting Spree, Prime Minister Says
5 killed, 25 wounded in a country with some of the strictest gun control laws in the world. How can that possibly happen?[/sarcasm]
Stella - my best girl ever.
11/04/1994 - 12/23/2010
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"Stop Resisting Arrest!"
Easy, only the good guys actually follow the laws.... oh wait, I can't say that can I?
One of my favorites: "Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O'Donnel fat."
gun control ineffective? say it isn't so!
Gun Control did exactly what it was intended to do...it controlled the innocents and ensured that they did not have the means of protecting themselves.
Last edited by theGinsue; 06-02-2010 at 23:02.
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Good and valid points, however - below is the bottom line:Originally Posted by jake
^That.
Sure...less gun control may not have prevented the crime. It did, however, insure the law-abiding could not adequately defend themselves or their loved ones.
Gun control only makes criminals safer. That's the bottom line.
Stella - my best girl ever.
11/04/1994 - 12/23/2010
Don't wanna get shot by the police?
"Stop Resisting Arrest!"
We're also talking about the country the restricts the sale of silverware to under 18's. "Chav's" with knives and chains is the new huge deal. People don't seem to grasp that weapons don't cause crimes, criminals do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
H.
Very similar to my perspective!
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Well, if I may play devil's advocate, this is probably the first mass shooting (12 reported dead now) since the stricter gun control laws were enacted after Dunblane in 1996. In that same time period, how many mass shootings have there been in this country?
Personally, I don't think the news today would have been any different whether the gun laws were as strict as they are in 2010 or were in 1995. Hardly anyone owned guns in the UK then, hardly anyone owns guns in the UK now, so it's not as if some armed citizen would have put a stop to this rampage.
And I'm going to guess (although I could be wrong) that this guy used a legally held firearm. Most illegal firearms in the UK are used in inner-city gang-on-gang violence, not some murder-suicide out in the sticks.
"A lot of people seem obliged to have a viewpoint."
You fail to take into account the sever discrepancy between US and UK populations.
taking that into account, our "mass shooting" occurence since 1996 is about 1 per 30,000,000
While, if this is the first mass shooting since 1996, the UKs is 1 per 61,000,000
Again though, the statisitics are virtually meaningless as it's impossible to establish a direct correlation between gun control and shooting occurence.
It could be due to any number of societal factors, including cultural influences, stresses, etc.
On a side note, it was found that the shooting was carried out with a sporting-shotgun and a .22 rifle.
So much for that whole "assault" weapons theory.
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