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    Default Traffic Ticket Cams Coming to Colo Spr

    I know we have little room to complain since many other places in the state (esp PR Boulder) already have these, but.... we're getting them.

    These cameras will get you going through an intersection on a YELLOW light.

    I'd be willing to guess that 70% of us in the Springs area (on this site) will have a ticket from one of these cameras within the next 3 years.

    Be ready because they are coming soon!

    Source: http://www.gazette.com/articles/came...sed-light.html
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    Motorists who think yellow means step on the gas might want to think again.

    Red-light cameras, which have sparked controversy across America, could soon be making their Colorado Springs debut.

    The City Council is expected to give preliminary approval today to a proposed ordinance governing violations recorded by red-light cameras, paving the way for the Police Department to start issuing citations after a warning period that ends around Oct. 18.

    Pending final approval by the council June 22, police plan to install red-light cameras later this year at the following four intersections:

    • Northbound Nevada Avenue at Bijou Street

    • Eastbound Oro Blanco Drive at Barnes Road

    • Westbound Platte Avenue at Murray Boulevard

    • Westbound Platte Avenue at Circle Drive

    About 5,000 citations are expected to be issued at each intersection monthly.
    The intersections are among 15 in the city with a high number of right-angle collisions.

    “The police perspective on this is all about reducing crashes,” not generating revenue, Police Chief Richard Myers said Monday.

    “There’s potential it could generate revenue,” he said. “Some cities that have implemented this have had a substantial revenue increase from it. That’s not our intention or our goal.”

    Police had planned to install the cameras earlier this year, but ran into delays. The city had initially estimated the red-light cameras — as well as photo radar — would generate an additional $735,000 in revenue this year. But after the delays, the estimates were cut in half.

    Myers said there are a lot of misconceptions in Colorado Springs about the cameras, including that yellow times on traffic lights will be shortened.

    “We’re carrying the burden of some other communities in other states who had been what I consider less than ethical in their implementation,” he said.

    The cameras will record the violation, and an officer will review it before a citation is mailed, he said.

    “The emphasis I’m making with our officers who will be reviewing the video is, if there’s any shadow of a doubt, let it go,” he said.

    Red-light runners will also be able to watch a video of the violation online, prompting most violators to pay the $75 fine, he said.

    “The average law-abiding, good citizen is going to look at that and say, ‘Man, I screwed up. They’ve got it. They’ve got it right there on video,’” Myers said.
    Red-light camera citations won’t cost motorists any points on their drivers licenses.
    With the exception of paying an officer or officers to review the violations, Myers said the red-light cameras won’t cost the city any money. Arizona-based American Traffic Solutions will pay for the technology.

    “They wouldn’t be engaging in this business if they weren’t going to get their return on investment and pay their operating costs,” the chief said.

    The proposed ordinance also covers a photo-radar program, but police still haven’t determined when it will be rolled out.

    ETA: So, it's NOT about generating revenue, BUT AFTER the Warning Period which ends Oct 18, they still expect to generate 3/4 of a million dollars THIS YEAR? Using their math, these systems can be expected to generate $3.5 million/year.

    How is this NOT about generating revenue?

    This is nothing more than a way to punish the voters for not voting for their tax increases - pure and simple.
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    Let me clean that up for you Sir:

    Deleted, fixed by OP.
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    Good fucking luck getting me to pay for a ticket produced from me doing something totally legal (going through a light while it is yellow).

    I recently got my first red light ticket in the Tech Center. That yellow light was definitely cut short. I got the nicest piece of mail in the world though. High quality glossy paper with four different full color pictures of me running the light. No wonder it costs $75.


    Any elected official who states potential revenue as a secondary, possible benefit of a red light camera needs to be booted out of office immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBear View Post
    Let me clean that up for you Sir:
    Thanks - I've addempted to cut-and-paste, re-edit MANY times now and it keeps fighting me with one or more unwanted attributes.

    ETA: Finally got it, thanks to BigBear!
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    Expect rear-endings at these intersections to skyrocket.

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    well fuck the amberlamps if he is behind me am not going through on a red. Did that once and got a $75 traffic award. Fuckers!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Expect rear-endings at these intersections to skyrocket.

    Yay, maybe someone will total me now and I can get a car that works!!... if I survive the rear ending, HAHAHA.

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    many of the intersections already have the cameras- (I think they use them instead of metal detectors to detect traffic)

    I call BS on this statement: “There’s potential it could generate revenue,” he said. “Some cities that have implemented this have had a substantial revenue increase from it. That’s not our intention or our goal.”

    and red-light cameras are just the beginning: "The proposed ordinance also covers a photo-radar program, but police still haven’t determined when it will be rolled out."

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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
    and red-light cameras are just the beginning: "The proposed ordinance also covers a photo-radar program, but police still haven’t determined when it will be rolled out."
    They "haven't determined", or they want to get them rolled out long before the general populace is aware of their existance?

    Check out my OP for edits at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    Any elected official who states potential revenue as a secondary, possible benefit of a red light camera needs to be booted out of office immediately.
    +1


    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    Expect rear-endings at these intersections to skyrocket.
    Yup!
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    Some municipalities that have deployed these cameras have been caught making their yellow signal timer be illegally short.

    Not about revenue my ass.

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