Ground Zero Mosque

[rockhound]

Aside from you constantly and confusingly conflating Islam with illegal immigration from Mexico, the riots in Paris that you talk about (presumably you mean the 2005 riots) were nothing to do with Islam or the Danish Muhammad cartoon.

Sorry yes to be fair I have a fact or two confused.
It was the danes and the lybians who saw riots over a cartoon and it was paris who saw riots in 2005 because three dirtbags running from the cops tried to hide in an electrical equipment building and got themselves fried because they breaking into a construction site to steal. And then paris again for three weeks of riots in 2009 for another dirtbag who was killed running from police.

The muslims riot so often I have a hard time keeping up.

Don't see where that eliminates my point.

I draw the similarities between illegals and muslims because I see them as one and the same when it comes to the damage they can and are doing to our democrastic societies.

The influx of both is dangerous and has and will lead to violence. I think they are very closely related.

[jake]

Well the rioters in Paris were French youth rather than Muslims. It wasn't a riot about religion, it was a riot about racism, unemployment, police brutality, stuff like that. Paris is a great city, but outside the peripherique parts of it resemble Detroit.

Actually, you might like some of the laws that the French have enacted. The burqa is banned in French schools. Sarkozy has said the burqa is unwelcome in France. Their attitude is that if you live in France, you assimilate. Lots of European countries are moving in the same direction. The UK is about to enact laws regarding being able to speak English before you're able to immigrate as the spouse of a British citizen. And once you have immigrated, you have two years to pass a test on 'Englishness' or your visa is revoked.

As for the comparison between illegal immigration and Islam, your point about Phoenix and the mosques makes as much sense to me as saying there are so many Cuban illegals in Miami because of all the synagogues in south Florida.

[Jumpstart]

I draw the similarities between illegals and muslims because I see them as one and the same when it comes to the damage they can and are doing to our democrastic societies.

The influx of both is dangerous and has and will lead to violence. I think they are very closely related.

My sentiments exactly.

[ToliXD]

The hound has this thread on lock down.

[rockhound]

dammit i posted twice now a six paragraph response to this stupid argument, both times it disappeared.

i don't have the time to do it again. i will try again tomorrow.

[Elhuero]

illegal immigrants opposed to the new law in AZ scream that its about racisim. It's not, and they know it. racism is just a red herring.

people say this moqsue is about religious freedom. it's not, and they know it. that's just a red herring too.

if a jewish extremist group had carried out 9/11, and was now trying to build a synagogue, then I'd feel the same way.

but for some reason, all these terrorist attacks have been carried out by muslims......... a gigantic coincidence?

only those blind to reality think so.

[rockhound]

the short version.

left leaning newspapers defended the riots stating that the youths involved were not illegal immigrants the were " second generation immigrants" So they were the sons of illegal immigrants??? same same if you ask me.

quote "most of the rioters were second generation immigrant youths" nowhere did they deny that they were muslim. There were subsequent riots that were not necessarily muslim lead.

The fact is that the lower quality of life and the joblessness that they claims they were protesting could be stemmed if they learn the language and become more a part of the mainstream society in any culture. You would be surprised how many more jobs you would have if you were a legal immigrant and spoke the language. Hiding out in your own subculture will not get you ahead or provide positive stimulus to the country.

I grew up in Florida, I lived there for 15 years, the Cubans were political refugees fleeing a murderous, communist dictatorship. I spent lots of time in Miami, FT Lauderdale, Jupiter and many other cities the Cubans landed in. They are or at least were hard working, business owners that are not looking for handouts and they created jobs for themselves. They took pride in being here and paid their taxes. Just like Obama who has no idea what it is like in AZ, it has been a while since I was in Miami, but that was what I found while there.

A quick google search will bring up the problems with illegal muslim immigration all over the globe. just the first page outlines problems in Spain, Sweden, Britain and the United States. If the rest of the world can see the issue why can't some US citizens????

I am done with this argument. The proof is in the pudding and there are reams of evidence printed everyday. They may not have a German tank pointed in your direction, but the invasion is just as serious and could be just as effective.

Our military helped ensure that we still speak english here and not German or Japanese, I have no intention of bowing toward mecca or speaking anymore Spanish than I already do.

You don't have to agree with anything or stand up for your country. There have always been those who are willing to do it for you and I guess this won't be any different.


I am done with this thread, thanks

[HBARleatherneck]

so, did anyone see the article about how muslims were infiltrating American forums? (such as this one)
It is their idea, that they can make up a screen name, sound American and sew discontent. They act like they are on our side, but are trying to make Americans mad at their government and stick up for muslims world wide.

[Graves]

It's a huge f*ck you to any of us who truely love this land. The thought of putting a stop to it because it's out of line just makes me sick and I think that it's time we draw the line on these f*ck5!!! I've freaking had it with the PC bu!!sh!t that goes on; how much do we give up to please everybody before all is lost???? If some asshole ran your kid over to spite you would it be a non issue if he decided to open a driving school up next your house? Grow some balls people, this shit is wrong!!!!

[RobertB]

so, did anyone see the article about how muslims were infiltrating American forums? (such as this one)
It is their idea, that they can make up a screen name, sound American and sew discontent. They act like they are on our side, but are trying to make Americans mad at their government and stick up for muslims world wide.

"While I cannot take the time to name all the men on this forum who have been named as members of the Muslim Party and members of a terrorist group, I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were known to the government and who, nevertheless, are still working and shaping policy on the innernets."