Any co-ar15 members into "wheeling"?

[Irving]

Kingston Peak:


Dave_L smashing his leaf springs into every rock on Middle St. Vrain:



These are all at Slaughter House before they nerfed it. T-giv, 10mmMan, and I went to Slaughter House this year and they could have slept through the whole trail with their rigs.









This is Spring Creek 09/2006. This first picture is the truck that did the boulder in the beginning of the trail. This first picture is where I dented my passenger rocker panel when I wasn't careful and went through without a spotter.


This girl had a double cab Tacoma on 35's with a 6" lift. Later that year her boyfriend got drunk and nose dived it off of Lion's Back in Moab. They did about a 50' drop into a head on collision with the ground according to what people were posting in the thread at the time.


While that same rig and the main group was doing this in the rock garden, my bud put his tire up on a rock and one of the guys came down the trail to lecture him about breaking his rig and having to get towed out. We were like, "Um, I think you need to direct your lecture back over there."

[JMBD2112]

Looks good, what size tires?

Trying to find one for my wife and get me another one, mine is cosmetically falling apart. Motor still good and drivetrain only 3-4 years old. Just looks Fugly.

BTW (my opinion here) Long arms are overrated for the cost to benefit ration. Unless you need TONS of lift for 35's and up, 33's work just fine, you need a balance of lift and cut out/bump stopped areas, armor and lockers. Been there and done that with long arms and coilovers, 37's yadda yadda, I found myself working on the Jeep more than driving it and it sucked on the highway. Mine now is perfect height 4-5" and 33's, short arms and the thing rides smooth in my book. Gone everywhere I have pointed it, just like Hurley, I got older and realized I needed more of a utilitarian vehicle for camping/exploring/wheeling.

33 KM2's, I'm at 6" now with an RE 4" lift and a 2" spacers and blocks. I put the budget boost on it a little over a month ago and it pulled my front axle back, so I was thinking adjustable short arms for $350 - $400 or long arms for $600.

[hurley842002]

Here's mine, I would love to meet up with you guys sometime, but she's getting really tired and getting a motorswap and long arms soon.

Very nice, another XJ wheeler, I'll surely miss mine, but love the taco lol.

[hurley842002]

ETA: Checked out the link for the Empire loop. Surely easy for Skully, but I'm interested. It'd be nice to do something that needs some spotting. My wife doesn't really know how to spot me on stuff except, "Am I on a rock?!" "Yep!" lol.

Lol sounds like she's about the same level as my wife. First time mine spotted for me, she was doing all these funky hand signals lol. Needless to say we had a brief lesson afterwards.

[Skully]

I did Spring Creek the first time with spotting and no damage. I did it a second time and got lazy and dented a rocker panel.
I almost forgot! I did NOT do the huge boulder in the beginning of the trail. My friend with the same vehicle (minus the supercharger) did it though. He had a lot more body armor on his rig and was a lot more experienced. I had made maybe one payment on my truck at the time.

ETA: Checked out the link for the Empire loop. Surely easy for Skully, but I'm interested. It'd be nice to do something that needs some spotting. My wife doesn't really know how to spot me on stuff except, "Am I on a rock?!" "Yep!" lol.

Last time I did Spring Creek the Rock Garden a WJ mildly lifted went up the bypass, they got stuck worse as it was narrow and rutted out. The rock Garden at least it is wide and can take many different lines and zig zag through.

Lol sounds like she's about the same level as my wife. First time mine spotted for me, she was doing all these funky hand signals lol. Needless to say we had a brief lesson afterwards.

I love the 3 trails up there Red Elephant/MIll Crek/Bill Moore (Empire loop), spend all day doing them, beautiful area, lots of different things to crawl over etc. I just fall back on them so much if I cant figure out where to go that I realized I need to find some new fall backs. They are also SUPER busy on holiday Weekends.

Directions with taking Red Elephant;
Go up Red Elephant (say hello to the rude angry looking residents that live off the first part of the trail.) Go up this narrow steep hill and watch out for the rutted out area with rocks/boulders and the 500 steep roll off hill. Make your way up the 3-4 tight switchbacks. When you get to the top and go through the dense tree area, you will come to a meadow open area with the first Y, take a right if you want to go the easy way (counter clockwise) on Mill Creek (going down the hills with the rocks/cliffs) or pass that Y and come to the second Y and take a right to the funner way (clockwise) make sure you stop at the "Empire Hilton" either direction you take and gander at the bug infested beds you would never sleep on and say hello to "Rudy" the bear. Either direction you go when you come back to main road after completing Mill creek head west (right) until you come down a hill and another Y take a right to Bill Moore Lake. Pose in the old barely there cabins near the lake.

I have down this trail so many times I can do it half blind.


(BTW Irving I have never seen anyone get spotted on the Empire loop even in a stock XJ. Your should be good. )

[Brian]

I love the 3 trails up there Red Elephant/MIll Crek/Bill Moore (Empire loop), spend all day doing them, beautiful area, lots of different things to crawl over etc. I just fall back on them so much if I cant figure out where to go that I realized I need to find some new fall backs. They are also SUPER busy on holiday Weekends.
I have down this trail so many times I can do it half blind.

(BTW Irving I have never seen anyone get spotted on the Empire loop even in a stock XJ. Your should be good. )

Agreed here. This has become one of our standbys because it is relatively close to town, and you can have a variety of experiences depending on which turns you take. Plus you can stop at the Lewis Sweet Shop on the way back down, which is always a hit for my wife and the kids.

[DangerLee_Industries]

Here is my last rig that I built, ran for a few years then parted out and sold..... Picked up another TJ to start the process over yet once again.....

[Irving]

I think we did Spring Creek back in 2006. My buddy with a stock '04(?) Rubicon did it. I'll dig out my old pictures again.

[hurley842002]

Here is my last rig that I built, ran for a few years then parted out and sold..... Picked up another TJ to start the process over yet once again.....

Nice rig man! I really wanted an early Rubicon unlimited, but with the little one, 4 doors was winner, and the later Wranglers were out of my price range.

[DangerLee_Industries]

Thanks it was the best 1 I have built yet. I told myself I was cheating getting a base rubi to start with but it was a great setup. Ran it all around the rockies and moab on 37 MTR'S without an issue. Even made it all the way through pritchett which isn't swb friendly. New TJ is sitting on 33's until I can rip into it........ I hear ya...... We just had our first so the next one after this will be a 4 door for sure...