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    Man Legally Carrying Gun Robbed at Gunpoint

    By Melanie Stout

    MILWAUKEE - A Milwaukee man found out the hard way that carrying a gun for protection doesn't always keep you safe. In fact, it may have made him a target.

    The 34-year-old man legally owned a handgun and carried it out in the open in his holster for protection.

    Neighbors say they knew he was always armed.

    "It was kind of scary to just see him walking around all the time with that gun kind of just out in the open," said Shambria Mayham Autman. She lives near Teutonia and Good Hope and said they called him "The guy with the gun."

    But it wasn't scary for at least one person who robbed "The guy with the gun" at gunpoint.

    "I think he was trying to scare people off like, 'Yeah, don't mess with me,' kind of attitude, but it didn't work," Mayham Autman explained.

    The president of Wisconsin Carry, Nik Clark, says 100's of thousands of people open carry and he's never heard of anything like this.

    "So it really is a very unusual situation, very unique," Clark said.

    The victim didn't want to go on camera but said he carried the gun because he had been jumped and held up at knife point in the past. He believes, in his case, open carry made him a target and he will no longer do it.

    He said his case proves gun owners should have the right to carry concealed weapons.

    Clark agrees. "By and large it is a significant deterrent, open carry is, but I think it really does make the point that Wisconsin should have concealed carry along with open carry so that people who live in a very high crime neighborhood where criminals aren't deterred by firearms would have the ability to conceal carry to protect themselves. The two really work hand in hand," Clark said.
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    Another reason to get training above and beyond some basic pistol course. I think situational awareness is more important than the gun tbh. Keeping yourself out of situations and knowing how to handle yourself if for some reason you get into a spot will do you a lot more good than just thinking you're the man because you have a gun.

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    sounds like Mr. Milwaukee didn't have the proper mindset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TS12000 View Post
    Another reason to get training above and beyond some basic pistol course. I think situational awareness is more important than the gun tbh. Keeping yourself out of situations and knowing how to handle yourself if for some reason you get into a spot will do you a lot more good than just thinking you're the man because you have a gun.

    Agreed! Did he just see this guy walk up to him and had no thoughts on what this 'contact' could be?

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    He had the magic wand syndrome Ayoob talks about. Career criminals can tell if your in the proper mind set to kill them if they do something stupid to you.

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    Another reason why I like to put out the vibe of Don't F With Me! and give dirty looks to people I don't know (except the hotties).
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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Another reason why I like to put out the vibe of Don't F With Me! and give dirty looks to people I don't know (except the hotties).

    LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post
    Another reason why I like to put out the vibe of Don't F With Me! and give dirty looks to people I don't know (except the hotties).
    I thought it was the other way around, no wonder I keep getting robbed and have no GF

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    Col. Cooper often stated, after researching hundreds of shooting incidents, that mindset was by far the most important ingredient in "close range interpersonal crisis management" (his words), much more so than marksmanship ability. Sounds like this guy was noodling around in condition white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TS12000 View Post
    no wonder I keep getting robbed and have no GF
    I don't have a girlfriend either - it would be VERY bad for my health WHEN (not IF) my wife found out!


    Quote Originally Posted by TS12000 View Post
    Another reason to get training above and beyond some basic pistol course. I think situational awareness is more important than the gun tbh. Keeping yourself out of situations and knowing how to handle yourself if for some reason you get into a spot will do you a lot more good than just thinking you're the man because you have a gun.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Pete View Post
    Col. Cooper often stated, after researching hundreds of shooting incidents, that mindset was by far the most important ingredient in "close range interpersonal crisis management" (his words), much more so than marksmanship ability. Sounds like this guy was noodling around in condition white.
    Both comments make a lot of sense. Maintain proper situational awareness, prepare for the worst and pray for the best, but always expect the worst.
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