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    Ya it works great the GOP is always telling us that if we start a 3rd party we will just ruin the chances of conservatives staying in office. At this point I am starting not to care anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    I put it in my shopping cart on Amazon. Does it explicitly say, "I am a Communist" or are there some parts where I should read between the lines?
    If your parents are Communists, your Grandparents (who do the actual parenting because your parents are both jerkoffs) are Communists, the people you hang out with in College are Communists (by his own admission), etc., what are the chances you might have absorbed some of those ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anton View Post
    If your parents are Communists, your Grandparents (who do the actual parenting because your parents are both jerkoffs) are Communists, the people you hang out with in College are Communists (by his own admission), etc., what are the chances you might have absorbed some of those ideas?
    Common sense would dictate "good chances".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anton View Post
    If your parents are Communists, your Grandparents (who do the actual parenting because your parents are both jerkoffs) are Communists, the people you hang out with in College are Communists (by his own admission), etc., what are the chances you might have absorbed some of those ideas?
    Are they higher or lower than the chances that we know for a fact the political affiliations of four people, three of whom were dead long before most of the world had even heard of Barack Obama?

    "A lot of people seem obliged to have a viewpoint."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    I put it in my shopping cart on Amazon. Does it explicitly say, "I am a Communist" or are there some parts where I should read between the lines?
    His parents were both "I am a Communitst" communists, his Grandparents (who actually raised him because his parents in addition to being communists were also losers) were members of Seattle's The Little Red Church on the Hill and the "Frank" he refers to as the mentor his grandparents set him up with was Frank Marshall Davis, well know communist. He's smart enough to never come out and say "I am a Communist" but his background and the people he surrounded himself with clearly show he wasn't on the path to become a Randian Objectivist or a follower of Von Mises, Hayek and Friedman.

    Here's a quote from the book where he comes close to claiming the title "Communist".
    To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling constraints. We weren't indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated.
    His hatred of all things American, Capitalist, Western, and White must be quite a challenge to conceal every day. I imagine every time Rahm enters the oval office ole B. Hussein Obama has to steele himself by remembering that although he's white, he's working for The Man.
    I'm sure on some level he despises Rahm since its pretty clear to me that Obama and his ilk don't much like Jews Seriously though he has let the mask slip once in a while ... like his comment about his white grandmother being a "typical white person" (ie: racist).

    As for Obama's anti-white racism, you will not need to read between any lines to see it in the book. In fact his shame and hatred of his white half is a major theme of the book.

    Do you think all Democrats are by implication Communists, or just this particular group that's in power at present?
    Just this particular group ... clearly there are non communist Democrats but they're pretty much out of power in the party right now.
    Do you think they are Communists through good intention, or do you think they're just using the poor as a stepping stone to absolute authority, like Kim Jong Ill?
    I believe they see it as a stepping stone to absolute authority. The only communists with "good intentions" are the powerless, grass roots types bathing in patchuli and hanging out at coffee houses writing bad poetry and not actually part of the power structure.

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    I'm with Z on this one. His arguments, while not as compelling as Obama's writings, are compelling nonetheless.
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    I think everyone is missing the mark on this one. Instead of arguing which kind of power grabbing, freedom destroying political philosophy our friends in DC (right and left) belong to, can't we all agree that actions speak much louder than titles? If you want to take away my rights for the sake of security, state, general welfare, etc. I could care less what the hell you call yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TS12000 View Post
    I think everyone is missing the mark on this one. Instead of arguing which kind of power grabbing, freedom destroying political philosophy our friends in DC (right and left) belong to, can't we all agree that actions speak much louder than titles? If you want to take away my rights for the sake of security, state, general welfare, etc. I could care less what the hell you call yourself.

    couldn't say "+1" loud enough.

    Seems to me like my (read-Americans) liberties and rights are under attack from both sides, with the express purpose of buying votes from special interest groups. I find myself more and more of a one-issue voter, the issue being, liberties, regardless of what side of the aisle they "benefit."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zundfolge View Post
    His parents were both "I am a Communitst" communists, his Grandparents (who actually raised him because his parents in addition to being communists were also losers) were members of Seattle's The Little Red Church on the Hill and the "Frank" he refers to as the mentor his grandparents set him up with was Frank Marshall Davis, well know communist. He's smart enough to never come out and say "I am a Communist" but his background and the people he surrounded himself with clearly show he wasn't on the path to become a Randian Objectivist or a follower of Von Mises, Hayek and Friedman.

    Here's a quote from the book where he comes close to claiming the title "Communist".
    To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist Professors and the structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting bourgeois society's stifling constraints. We weren't indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated.
    I'm sure on some level he despises Rahm since its pretty clear to me that Obama and his ilk don't much like Jews Seriously though he has let the mask slip once in a while ... like his comment about his white grandmother being a "typical white person" (ie: racist).

    As for Obama's anti-white racism, you will not need to read between any lines to see it in the book. In fact his shame and hatred of his white half is a major theme of the book.

    Just this particular group ... clearly there are non communist Democrats but they're pretty much out of power in the party right now.
    I believe they see it as a stepping stone to absolute authority. The only communists with "good intentions" are the powerless, grass roots types bathing in patchuli and hanging out at coffee houses writing bad poetry and not actually part of the power structure.
    I'd be careful. Glenn Beck works for a right leaning media organization and is well known to lean to the right himself, so I would take a lot of what he says with a grain of salt.

    But seriously, a student into radical politics? Say it isn't so!

    To me, this is the most telling part of his quote about his student days; "To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully." Sounds to me like he wasn't so much buying into a philosophy as he was buying into an image. Probably so he could score chicks. I did that myself when I was at university.

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