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    If it were that easy, then it never would have made the news. Let's be realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBear View Post
    I call bull on this whole situation... Get a couple of engineering grad kids from any major college (not even ivy league) and this would've already been taken care of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.man View Post
    He has No clue.
    Gonna have to disagree, Mtn.man.

    I think he's got a whole shit-load of "No Clue".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    If it were that easy, then it never would have made the news. Let's be realistic.
    I am being realistic. I know it's not "easy" and Lord knows I don't have a degree in petroleum engineering, etc... But, almost anything makes the news these days so I don't put too much stock in that. BP is getting a lot of press out of this (good or bad doesn't really matter). Any press can be made to work for you. There is a lot of money and beaucracy holding things up as well, a lot of money.... Anyways, just get the thing stopped and they can fight about responsibility later.

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    You don't purposely leak billions of dollars of your inventory into the ocean for publicity. People already hate the oil industry, and having an oil spill just makes them look even worse.

    I feel like BP should have realized early on that they were going to look bad either way, don't bother with any down playing and get to work. Perhaps I'm wrong though. At the same time, the public and media need to STFU about how much oil per day is leaking, because it doesn't matter one bit. Funny how the world is about to run out of oil every other day, until there is an oil leak, then people switch hats and now there is enough oil to ruin the entire ocean if we let it.

    I heard a lady on NPR this morning say, "Well, we've all become oil experts as we watched this tragedy unfold over the last month." That made me angry because it is pretty clear that no one has any idea what they are talking about when it comes to oil stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    You don't purposely leak billions of dollars of your inventory into the ocean for publicity. People already hate the oil industry, and having an oil spill just makes them look even worse.

    I feel like BP should have realized early on that they were going to look bad either way, don't bother with any down playing and get to work. Perhaps I'm wrong though. At the same time, the public and media need to STFU about how much oil per day is leaking, because it doesn't matter one bit. Funny how the world is about to run out of oil every other day, until there is an oil leak, then people switch hats and now there is enough oil to ruin the entire ocean if we let it.

    I heard a lady on NPR this morning say, "Well, we've all become oil experts as we watched this tragedy unfold over the last month." That made me angry because it is pretty clear that no one has any idea what they are talking about when it comes to oil stuff.
    Correct and I agree. Someone would not purposely lose their product. However, that is not the issue. The issue is plugging the leak of which is being stalled by a myriad of reasons, some logical, some stupid. All I am trying to say is that this whole thing is stupid. Take out the press/money/beaucracy/"it's your fault"/activists/PCness/etc and let some engineers at it, it'd be capped and forgotten into the black hole that seems to be America's memory.

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    Please post the list of reasons you've heard why the leak hasn't been plugged yet.
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    Just another reason to let oil companies drill closer inland. if this was in 500' or water instead of 5000, it would have been fixed within days.

    newer energy is out there, the technology is there.
    the problem lies with the consumer. until they make a cheap $100 fix to every modern day car driving around to convert them for oil to "obama power", there will be no quick and easy transition to the new alternative energy.

    people aren't going to toss their hard spent money away on a new vehicle if they just bought a new one thanks to his previously implemented cash for clunkers, which happened to be a total waste of money.

    obama is failing, and people are starting to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    the public and media need to STFU about how much oil per day is leaking, because it doesn't matter one bit. Funny how the world is about to run out of oil every other day, until there is an oil leak, then people switch hats and now there is enough oil to ruin the entire ocean if we let it.
    These are not mutually exclusive. The US uses 20 million barrels of oil a day. Just the US! There is "Up to 100k barrels of oil a day" leaking into the gulf, 57 days, that's 5.7M barrels of oil. So the leak so far has put less than a quarter of one days consumption by the US into the Gulf. There are ~3800 oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    Just another reason to let oil companies drill closer inland. if this was in 500' or water instead of 5000, it would have been fixed within days.
    Logic fail. Same "logic" that Sarah Palin used to suggest this was a reason to drill in ANWR. It's perfectly reasonable to drill in deep water, provided you adhere to safety precautions. Saying let them drill closer inland without having oversight to make sure their own best-practices are being followed just means the oil will be washing on shore that much sooner.

    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    the problem lies with the consumer. until they make a cheap $100 fix to every modern day car driving around to convert them for oil to "obama power", there will be no quick and easy transition to the new alternative energy.
    There is no $100 fix or magic bullet coming. A gasoline car isn't going to suddenly run on a non-CO2 emitting power source. That's why the transition needs to start now, so that the 10 or 15 year lifecycle of a modern automobile can begin rolling over. As your existing car fails, you can replace it with a hybrid. When the hybrid fails, you can replace it with [hydrogen|electric|something-better].

    Quote Originally Posted by sniper7 View Post
    obama is failing, and people are starting to see it.
    He's failing, but probably not at these things.

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