Quote Originally Posted by Anton View Post
Its almost as if some polititians (in both parties) are actively trying to destroy our country, with the massive overspending, uncontrolled illegal immigration, exportation of our manufacturing base, etc...I'm not a conspiracy nut but sometimes I wonder. Politians can't be that stupid to do all this shit without realizing the consequences.
There is something MUCH bigger going on and these dumb-assed puppets are playing the roles laid out for them. Not only will our problems not get any better, they will get progressively worse. Expect to see that happen at an exponentially faster rate. (Okay, you can remove your tin-foil hat now, but I'll just leave mine on for a bit longer.)


Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
Or are you just suggesting that certain laws have created a toxic environment state side?
Yes, and when you tax your own producers and businesses at a ridiculously high rate (amongst the highest of any nation), those same businesses will find cheaper places to manufacture their products. Couple that with the fact that our import tarriffs for every other nation are especially low to enourage "free trade" (via the "Most Favored Nation" trading status). All you have to do to get this prestigious status is commit numerous atrocities and have the worst record on human rights. Then, start "trading" toxic products (lead is a favorite additive).

Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post
I was taught at a high-school level that if you want to encourage a behavior, then relax the tax on it- you want to curtail it, then increase the taxes on it..

yes, corporations decided to do this on their own, under the environment created by the government... this isn't entirely the fault of the current administration, but the government encouraged the behavior..

corporations don't make decisions in a vacuum.. like the corporations that have already decided that paying the fines is cheaper than continuing to pay for health care for employees.. why should, they, since employees will get public health care?
Of course, those of us using the military TriCare health system won't get any of the advantages of the new health reform. Our children won't get to enjoy the benefits to age 26 [regardless of marriage, "student" status, etc] like those covered by commercial health insurance. Their coverage will expire at the absolutely latest at 23 years old.

The governments reasoning is that TriCare benefits (even for retirees and their families) are officially considered an "entitlement", not an insurance program. Funny, those of us who were surprised to have to pay to continue our coverage after our retirement were told that it ISN'T an entitlement.

Interesting how the story changes when it's "for the convenience of the government".