Quote Originally Posted by Anton View Post
Polititians push the free-trade BS on us which allows corporations to move manufacturing to third world countries where they can hire people for ten cents a week. Tarrifs and import controls apparantly are evil and the transition to a minimum-wage service economy is apparantly great for all of us. I'm not so sure.
Quote Originally Posted by 68Charger View Post

yes, corporations decided to do this on their own, under the environment created by the government... this isn't entirely the fault of the current administration, but the government encouraged the behavior..

corporations don't make decisions in a vacuum.. like the corporations that have already decided that paying the fines is cheaper than continuing to pay for health care for employees.. why should, they, since employees will get public health care?
Quote Originally Posted by theGinsue View Post

Yes, and when you tax your own producers and businesses at a ridiculously high rate (amongst the highest of any nation), those same businesses will find cheaper places to manufacture their products. Couple that with the fact that our import tarriffs for every other nation are especially low to enourage "free trade" (via the "Most Favored Nation" trading status). All you have to do to get this prestigious status is commit numerous atrocities and have the worst record on human rights. Then, start "trading" toxic products (lead is a favorite additive).
For the record I'm not trying to argue a point here, just want to measure feelings on this issue.

I completely understand and expected these answers, but how much of the blame are you willing to put onto the government? How many degrees of separation will you allow before you consider government too far removed for a place in the equation?

For example................Well, I had a few examples, but I didn't feel they were strong enough after thinking about them a little. I was shooting for an example of the government putting into place some law, standard, etc, that requires a company to spend more money to meet the "standard," that in turn encourage companies to cut corners to save money. I was going to use an automotive recall, or the British Petroleum oil spill as a case of cutting corners to save on cost, but neither of those are fitting examples.