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    Here is a link to a press release issued by the Wheat Ridge Police Department regarding the ongoing incident. I know it will not adequately answer all the questions that people have who believe their calls and emails were responsible for filing of charges against the two illegal alien suspects...

    http://www.ci.wheatridge.co.us/archi...der%20Case.pdf

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    Whole lotta WTF in that article... is Mr. Wallace senile? lol.

    Bottom line I still say "Good Shoot". People work hard for their crap and if someone wants to steal it, I say let 'em try with risk to thier own life. Hope that makes sense... I know, I know. I'm a hard-hearted cold bastard.

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    You could learn a lot from this guy Bear.

    http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/showth...ghlight=mugged
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Touche Sturart... touche... Point made. I have more self control than wishful thinking... Though sometimes I wish I would've pulled that trigger.

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    I get just as wound up over thieves as anyone else does, but there has to be a line some where right?
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Rgr that. Thank you.

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    I live 4 blocks west of there and had no idea this had occurred, I need to catch the news a little more often.

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    In this time line were is the bullet line for the suspect being picked up or turning himself in?

    It was 9 days later before they say they were notified by MATT of the other investigation and to not file charges, April 7th.
    So on Feb 26th why was the suspect not charged at the time he was finger printed, is that usually how it goes, you get picked up or turn yourself in on grand theft and are finger printed and released?

    What is valid CO id, is that a drivers license? "Both trailer theft suspects were in possession valid Colorado identification; however, their exact immigration status is still being investigated."

    This report does little to assure me that all is up to snuff. I am not cop hating, I am sneeking justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim02 View Post
    In this time line were is the bullet line for the suspect being picked up or turning himself in?

    It was 9 days later before they say they were notified by MATT of the other investigation and to not file charges, April 7th.
    So on Feb 26th why was the suspect not charged at the time he was finger printed, is that usually how it goes, you get picked up or turn yourself in on grand theft and are finger printed and released?

    What is valid CO id, is that a drivers license? "Both trailer theft suspects were in possession valid Colorado identification; however, their exact immigration status is still being investigated."

    This report does little to assure me that all is up to snuff. I am not cop hating, I am sneeking justice.

    Jim02:

    I don't believe I, or anyone else is ever going to ever satisfy you when it comes to this issue, or any related issues. I'm not picking a fight; I'm just acknowledging a conclusion.

    I don't see a bullet for the arrests of the two illegal alien suspects, just as you didn't. Does that matter? We know the warrants were signed by a judge last Friday and they were arrested shortly thereafter. Many to include Peter Boyles, suggest they are being given plea bargains in exchange for their testimony against Mr. Wallace. That is hard to say at this point in time, given that the warrants are for the probable cause charges, not a plea bargain. Additionally, the date of the press release was July 9th at 3:16 PM, which could have been before the warrants were signed.

    Why didn't they arrest one or both parties on February 26th? I don't know. Obtaining fingerprints and photographs is pretty typical of a lot of agencies when the investigation isn't complete with an arrest. One of the counties I've worked in discouraged the arrest/release pending charges way of going around the 72-hour charging requirement on a legal case law argument. That suspect may have been asked to submit the fingprints/photographs on a voluntary basis instead of being forced to while under arrest. In doing so, it gives the investigators more time to develop their case and not be forced to turn over their investigation to the DA's office in 48 hours, which gives the DA 24 hours to file to meet the 72-hour window.

    The second suspect was in the hospital and if he had been arrested while there, the arresting agency then is responsible for the hospital bills. It has been the practice of all the agencies I've worked for to not arrest anyone in the hospital unless absolutely necessary and in this case, for a simple felony theft, it would not be a rational or sound use of police funds.

    If this was my case, I would also take my time in filing the case given one of the suspect's is in the hospital and not a flight risk and I've identified the other. Remember, it is a felony theft case. That's it. I may have far more serious cases that would take priority for me at the time.

    Neither of the suspects are being charged with "grand theft" as the item stolen was not a vehicle. It is simple felony theft.

    The valid CO ID could be either a driver's license or a valid identification card. I don't know. I'm not willing to access the CCIC and jeopardize my career to satisfy curiosity to find out what both have. As I've previously mentioned, people can obtain a valid driver's license in other states with far less documentation than what is required in Colorado and transfer that to Colorado. There have also been people within the DMV who have been caught/arrested/convicted of selling their access to driver's licenses and state identification cards. These people may have a valid Colorado ID and still be here illegally.

    Lastly, this was a press release, not a report. Sometimes, the truth doesn't live up to the hype of the conspiracy theories.

    I would be very interested in reviewing all the case file to satisfy my professional curiosity to answer the major question of whether or not Mr. Wallace ever left his porch when he capped his rounds off or if he was standing in front of the vehicle as he later alleged. That is the pivotal question into the appropriateness of the charging decision. As it stands right now, the charges are appropriate based upon the arrest affidavit and no where in there is it mentioned that Mr. Wallace was in front of the vehicle or that he approached the vehicle at all.

    My $.02...

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    Just so everyone is clear... Im not Cop hating.
    Cops did the job they were given.
    I am Policy/Law/"pottytician" hating


    Just so's we're clear.

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