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    That's true and I can't make excuses for some agencies who refuse to change. I won't name agencies, but there are a few that I try to steer people interested in policing away from, because they are still stuck in the 1970's mentality. I've seen good people go to these agencies and become someone I can't respect. They are forever tainted because other agencies won't take them for employees.

    I personally think it comes down to who the agencies hire. I've been a cop for nearly 20 years and I've always advocated for a well-rounded person to be hired. The ideal candidate would be college educated, spent time in the military, is married and is in their late 20's or 30's. These factors cover most of the gamut in terms of what pieces make a good officer. Common sense, down to earth, smart, even tempered, negotiable, doesn't take themselves too seriously aren't skills that can be taught in the police academy; they come from life and life's experiences.

    The larger agencies can't hire people with these qualities in the quantity they need. The smaller agencies with one or two openings at a time can be more selective with their hiring decisions. When you hire 40-80 people at at time and have court mandated hiring priorities, you don't get the same quality of officer as the smaller agencies and then you put that new, impressionable officer with the old guard who teach policing from an archiac, agency specific point of view...you see the problem.

    During the years I was stationed in Germany in the Army, I got to see their national police up close (sometimes, too up close. I was young.) and for them, there is only one agency and you get assigned to a specific city, but were trained the same as the guy in the next city. When promotions come, there is advancement across the country, but you still work for the same agency. England is similar. What would happen if we did something like that here? Not that it would as no one would be willing to give their power, their police agency, their control. But seriously, for the sake of argument, what would happen? Would it be beneficial or not? Something to think on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    During the years I was stationed in Germany in the Army, I got to see their national police up close (sometimes, too up close. I was young.)


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    Heard a very generic report on the radio this morning, about "the elderly man, potentially facing charges", not being charged for the shooting. Didn't say if it was Wallace or not. Anybody hear anything further on this?

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    Keep the heat on and keep informed of how Law Enforcement favors illegals over citizens in CO. (law enforcement = politicans, chiefs, sherrifs, da's and everyone else who makes policy)

    A lot of interesting info has come to the surface since we last talked about this, to much for me to put in here.
    Peter Boyles and has been doing a great job of investigating this and finding out what law enforcement cant seem to explain with their b.s. press releases.

    If you have time to listen to his show during your work day and have not been, catch up here http://www.khow.com/cc-common/podcas...how_boyles.xml

    The illegals that commited the crime, have been in the police hands many many many times before this, including 2 felony theft incidents where they were given Agriculture trespassing pleas so they would not face jail and reporting to ice for deportation due to the sanctuary policy that CO follows.

    Peter called the guy that is registered for the actual SSN that one of the illegals used and he said he was not interested in knowing that his SSN was in use by illegals and hung up. This guys voicemail has an english and spanish message on it. They found that his SSN is in use by several people as well.
    With all the b.s. and cover up that law enforcement is dishing out on this, this is getting very interesting, unfortunatly this is standard policy in Colorado to treat illegals to a very lenient justice system that looks the other way and does everything they can to make sure they are free do anything they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim02 View Post
    The primary ballots are in mailboxs now, please try your best to vote for those that oppose illegal amenisty in all offices.

    Got mine yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley842002 View Post
    Heard a very generic report on the radio this morning, about "the elderly man, potentially facing charges", not being charged for the shooting. Didn't say if it was Wallace or not. Anybody hear anything further on this?

    This was another man who shot someone breaking into his house.
    Here i found the story I think you are refering to http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...08/detail.html
    Funny how this could be another illegal from the name and pic but there is no mention of it. Lets leave it at that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim02 View Post
    This was another man who shot someone breaking into his house.
    Here i found the story I think you are refering to http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...08/detail.html
    Funny how this could be another illegal from the name and pic but there is no mention of it. Lets leave it at that.
    Ahh, I kinda figured it was too quick for them to come to a verdict. At least justice was served in the above story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim02 View Post
    Keep the heat on and keep informed of how Law Enforcement favors illegals over citizens in CO. (law enforcement = politicans, chiefs, sherrifs, da's and everyone else who makes policy)

    A lot of interesting info has come to the surface since we last talked about this, to much for me to put in here.
    Peter Boyles and has been doing a great job of investigating this and finding out what law enforcement cant seem to explain with their b.s. press releases.

    The illegals that commited the crime, have been in the police hands many many many times before this, including 2 felony theft incidents where they were given Agriculture trespassing pleas so they would not face jail and reporting to ice for deportation due to the sanctuary policy that CO follows.

    With all the b.s. and cover up that law enforcement is dishing out on this, this is getting very interesting, unfortunatly this is standard policy in Colorado to treat illegals to a very lenient justice system that looks the other way and does everything they can to make sure they are free do anything they want.
    Jim02: Stop drinking the Peter Boyles kool-aid. His "investigation" isn't much other than looking for someone else to blame for a situation, while not immediately caused by Mr. Wallace, Mr. Wallace got himself into trouble all on his own.

    I take umbrige to your assessment that "law enforcement" is to blame or are trying to hide behind something. Nothing to hide behind. Please immerse yourself in the Colorado state statutes which do not give local law enforcement to include the local district attorney's any power to do anything about illegal immigration other than report them to I.C.E. That's it. I can't speak to the agricultural trespass and frankly, neither can you. You and I both do not know if that was a common plea those particular district attorney's used on specific charges and you and I don't know who gained the benefit of those type of plea's that were other than hispanic and potentially illegal aliens. How many white males got the same plea? You and I both do not know. To speculate it was only the illegal alien and to say it was done to keep them out of jail and deportation is asinine. The district attorney doesn't determine jail or prison, the judge does.

    Exactly what is law enforcement covering up? Keep in mind, I listen to Peter Boyles almost every day and he is becoming quite the shit stirer with his half-baked conspiracy theories in place over this case. He believes Mr. Wallace was in danger of being run over when he stepped aside and shot. So far, nothing that has been released has shown he even left the safety of his house before shooting.

    Yep, it appears the two theft suspects are here illegally. So what? What does that have to do with the theft? Boyles argument that if they had been deported for their previous criminal acts, they wouldn't have stolen the trailer. How does he know? Apparently, the border isn't very well protected and they are streaming over by the millions. How hard would it be for them to come back?

    Do you honestly think that D.A. Scott Storey is going to drop charges against Mr. Wallace, especially now that Boyles is running his suck the way he has been? He was rude to him when he was on his show and has been calling for every person listening and hearing Boyles' side of the story to call and email D.A. Storey, and from what I've heard from the D.A.'s office, there are a number of uneducated people out there coming up with all kinds of crap and statements about this situation that they know nothing about, except what Boyles tells them. Sheep.

    I hate to say this, but I am looking forward to Mr. Wallace's preliminary hearing in August and pending trial, just so this comes to an end. I don't want to see an old man spend the rest of his life in jail if convicted, but c'mon people! Take off the damn glasses, put down the glass of kool-aid and look at the situation rationally, instead of emotionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    c'mon people! Take off the damn glasses, put down the glass of kool-aid and look at the situation rationally, instead of emotionally.


    DOOM!

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