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    Quote Originally Posted by jake View Post
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    Japan has a lower crime rate than Switzerland.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics#Japan
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    Umm, Shouldn't that Read "Japan has a lower REPORTED crime rate than Switzerland."?

    My Wife tells me that her Cousins living/working in Japan will go to the Yakuza instead of the LE because they actually want something to be done.

    Just sayin

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    If I'm not mistaken (and a quick search didn't find any convincing statistics, but I only spent a few minutes)

    Statistically, the largest correlation to crime is poverty. In non-passion crimes, and according to rational reasoning theory, someone with no assets and no prospects has substantially less to lose. It's a grim sort of risk/reward calculation of the pros and cons of committing a robbery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoosier View Post
    If I'm not mistaken (and a quick search didn't find any convincing statistics, but I only spent a few minutes)

    Statistically, the largest correlation to crime is poverty. In non-passion crimes, and according to rational reasoning theory, someone with no assets and no prospects has substantially less to lose. It's a grim sort of risk/reward calculation of the pros and cons of committing a robbery.

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    Yep. poverty and unemployment.

    Pretty sure Hannu's from Finland, BTW, not Switzerland. Although he may have traveled to Switzerland before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Yep. poverty and unemployment.

    Pretty sure Hannu's from Finland, BTW, not Switzerland. Although he may have traveled to Switzerland before.
    I know he is from Finland, we get together sometimes for beers and he has seen a lot of shit all over Europe he even met Kalashnikov. And we get to drunken rambling about some of the BS gun Laws all over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_187 View Post
    I know he is from Finland, we get together sometimes for beers and he has seen a lot of shit all over Europe he even met Kalashnikov. And we get to drunken rambling about some of the BS gun Laws all over
    Cool. He's a good guy. Wish I could do more of that now a days.
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    Heh, it was a long time ago... It is sometiems fun to remember those times. I probably looked pretty different then: without beard, even shorter hair, uniform and ~30 lbs less weight... And of course, so much testosterone that it was coming out from my ears
    I think it was 1997 and comrad Mikhail was not a young man anymore, but I still remember his brain was razor-sharp back then.

    They are trying to tighten gun laws in many European countries. Pro-gun people and companies have put lot´s of money to researches, to find out what is the situation with guns & crime all over the world.

    Conclusion : "dead" things like guns have very little or nothing to do with crime rate. Guns do not get together and hunt down people themselves, they always need somebody to pull the trigger.
    Main thing is peoples satisfaction - which can be split to poverty, unemployment and many other things. One big thing is people coming from other culture and who have difficulties to adapt.
    Even weather can have noticeable effect on crime, much bigger than guns

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    I spoke briefly with an Isreali this weekend at BlasterBob's table at the Colo Spr Gun Show. He indicated that the crime rate in Isreal was similar to Switzerland - also because most folks have guns in their home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    Wow
    Umm, Shouldn't that Read "Japan has a lower REPORTED crime rate than Switzerland."?

    My Wife tells me that her Cousins living/working in Japan will go to the Yakuza instead of the LE because they actually want something to be done.

    Just sayin
    Yes, it should, I'm sorry. Japan and a lot of other countries all have a lower REPORTED crime rate than Switzerland. As other people have pointed out, crime rates are more about culture and demographics; I would be wary of trying to link liberal gun laws with lower crime rates, because our opponents could easily try turning it around the other way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jake View Post
    Yes, it should, I'm sorry. Japan and a lot of other countries all have a lower REPORTED crime rate than Switzerland. As other people have pointed out, crime rates are more about culture and demographics; I would be wary of trying to link liberal gun laws with lower crime rates, because our opponents could easily try turning it around the other way.
    Yeah, Pretty bad when the Populace turns to the organized crime for assistance with Justice issues rather than Law enforcement officials.

    I know this isn't always the case but if you look at allot of countries, it is.

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