Stolen valor act ruled unconstitutional

[CrufflerSteve]

I can sorta understand it if it doesn't set well with me. Might just have to be more blanket parties for creeps who steal honor they haven't earned.

That stuff about being okay to lie to cops might not be true. Martha Stewart went to prison for lying to a fed. Not even under oath. Crap. If they can lie to us why are they so frickin special.

Steve

[mutt]

I can sorta understand it if it doesn't set well with me. Might just have to be more blanket parties for creeps who steal honor they haven't earned.

That stuff about being okay to lie to cops might not be true. Martha Stewart went to prison for lying to a fed. Not even under oath. Crap. If they can lie to us why are they so frickin special.

Steve

They got Martha for lying to federal investigators, among other things. A cop is not a federal investigator. And this ruling may even cast doubt on Title 18 of the U.S. Code Section 1001, the 'lying statute'. Of course they can always get you on obstruction of justice instead of lying.

[OneGuy67]

REAL[/B] Veterans begging for handouts on the streets and Homeless.
Then you have some Jackwagon actor goes to a Military surplus and winds up on the goddamned news eating at the capital or some fancy restaurant Getting Pampered and Bombarded with gifts by PR Hungry Politicians and the only shells he's seen had an oyster in them.

I'm no Gungho Rambo with any Silver stars or anything but I'll be fucked with a pudding-pop if I Sit around and let some jerkoff lie about shit that people I loved and served with died over.


/rant


U.S. Army 1985-1992 Medical/Honorable

I like you more and more Byte! I did like pudding pops until you gave me such a visual...I'll never be able to look at a pudding pop the same way again...

U.S. Army Infantry 1985-1998, Military Police 2006-Current (Nat. Guard) (4 Honorable Discharges and counting; looking for one more along with my 20-year letter)

[Irving]

If this had passed, would people still be aloud to make war movies and cop movies?

Anyone know?

[mitch]

Anyone know?

You'll notice that in the movies, there is always something wrong with the uniform so they are "legal" per se.

[Byte Stryke]

You'll notice that in the movies, there is always something wrong with the uniform so they are "legal" per se.

It's been a long time ago and it is rather late, so nope, I do not remember the regulations by chapter and verse.
There are provisions withing the DoD regulations that allow wearing of a Military uniform for re-enactment, historical and entertainment purposes with DOD permission.

and no, that isn't why there is "always something wrong with them"
That's an old wives tale.
The truth is probably allot less glorious and technical than you might like.
Budget.
They are cranking out uniforms at a horrendous rate on a movie set for a few hundred extras and the Joe assigned to check em probably doesn't really care and most moviegoers don't notice anyways. Hurt Locker, Apocalypse now, Platoon, and dozens of others are examples.

Google saves the fuzzy Brain!
http://www.allmilitary.com/board/viewtopic.php?id=1501

United States Code Title 10 > Subtitle A > Part II > Chapter 45

§ 772. When wearing by persons not on active duty authorized

(f) While portraying a member of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps, an actor in a theatrical or motion-picture production may wear the uniform of that armed force if the portrayal does not tend to discredit that armed force.

[GreenScoutII]

If this had passed, would people still be aloud to make war movies and cop movies?

Yeah, taken to it's illogical extreme as things often are in this country, it might have become an issue.....

Aside from movies, plays, and fictional stories, anyone wearing or claiming military honors he didn't earn is an asshat.

God bless our veterans....

[Irving]

You'll notice that in the movies, there is always something wrong with the uniform so they are "legal" per se.

That doesn't make sense because then you could leave out a little detail on a uniform and fool every day people and it'd be legal. Plus what everyone else said.

[ronaldrwl]

If this had passed, would people still be aloud to make war movies and cop movies?

I don't think acting in a movie would count as lying

[theGinsue]

I don't think acting in a movie would count as lying

Unless the actor was a politician!