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    When we expanded the showroom here at the shop a few years back, we did the Rustoleum 2 part with a flake pattern about like pic #2. So far the durability has been pretty good. The prep sucked, but it has to be done right or you'll have bonding issues....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    They are expensive, I'll give you that, but for being impossible to clean - in my experience there isn't anything I haven't been able to clean off of them yet from grease to oil to blood (oops did I say that...).

    Maybe the cheaper versions are harder to clean. I think it looks pretty awesome too. A friend of mine carpeted his garage (yes, really) and not for like a studio or anything, he has a five car garage and carpeted the damn thing! Of course he has two convertible BMW's, a jag and a Ferrari... Yea, I pretty much hate the bastard.
    Carpet would drive me nuts!

    I heard liquids and dirt got between the cracks in the tiles, so it was impossible to ever get clean. Could be just the cheapies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeusExMachina View Post
    Carpet would drive me nuts!

    I heard liquids and dirt got between the cracks in the tiles, so it was impossible to ever get clean. Could be just the cheapies.
    It can happen but it's only happened to me once and it was a snap to just pop out a couple of tiles for a thorough cleaning.
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    Well I think I'll try the paint with flecks in the garage first. If I don't like the way it looks or it isn't holding up, I can put the tiles in on top of it. At least if I paint/seal it first, and liquids do leak through tiles later on, it won't be as bad.

    I need to paint/seal the floor and edges in there before I start putting in some cabinets anyway.

    H.

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    I'm way too skeptical of floor paints/coatings, guess it's my Missouri blood. I just can't see how it could hold up to the steel wheels on a loaded engine stand, or steel wheels on a creeper, or sparks/slag from welding or a cutting torch. And I damn sure ain't gonna baby it! Just seems like a waste o' time & money to me.

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    If its epoxy or something like rhino liner in might be up to the task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rondog View Post
    I'm way too skeptical of floor paints/coatings, guess it's my Missouri blood. I just can't see how it could hold up to the steel wheels on a loaded engine stand, or steel wheels on a creeper, or sparks/slag from welding or a cutting torch. And I damn sure ain't gonna baby it! Just seems like a waste o' time & money to me.

    have you ever seen the grout between tiles at a place like Arby's or Hardees and its Black and looks like something between Plastic and stone?

    Epoxy grout is probably the toughest shit you'd ever want to avoid working with.
    When I was an installer we guaranteed it for life.

    will it last on your garage floor.
    most likely, regardless of what you do in there.

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    I used to manage a tire and battery shop. We put down the 2 part epoxy from home depot. It worked great. We had hot tires, battery acid, brake cleaner and all sorts of oils on it daily and it held up fine. Non-diluted battery acid did discolor it. We did the acid etching to prep the concrete floor beforehand. We also put the antiskid powder mix in with the epoxy and that also worked great. I thought the traction powder would make the epoxy too hard to clean but it made no difference at all. The traction powder is so fine but it worked.
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    I put one of these systems in a machine shop maybe two years ago
    when I was working for a GC. The area was probably 1200 ft^2 or so.
    I wasn't in charge of the product but it was this:
    http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=14
    It turned out beautiful and glossy. Don't forget to add the abrasive
    when you mix up the batch if your kit has it separate. Otherwise
    your floor will become an ice skating rink when it gets wet.

    Not that I have extensive experience, but we were under the
    supervision of a RustOleum technical rep on the jobsite.
    The surface had an old coating that had to be removed with a grinder
    like this one http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete_grinder
    Etching would be ok for a previously uncoated/unsealed surface, but
    if it were mine, I'd still spring for the grinder and plan to never have to
    do the project ever again. We rented one locally. I don't remember
    from where.

    And only the diamond grinding heads work efficiently.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_grinding_cup_wheel

    We started out with a different type of head that had what
    looked like serrated scrapers on it and we burned through those
    in no time with only half as good results. One set of the
    diamond pads lasted the whole rest of the job and showed
    no wear from what I could see. You really need to get the concrete
    looking brand new. It will appear bright white and coarse. Prepare
    for alot of dust. We taped a shopvac hose directly to the exhaust
    port of the grinder and dumped dust and knocked of filters constantly.
    A handheld grinder was used for hard-to-reach areas. If you grind,
    get all the dust up afterwards.
    Wear work clothes. The epoxy you get on your jeans and shoes never leaves.

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    Some excellent input received here gentlemen, thank you greatly. Before and after pics will follow in a few weeks.

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