California Prop 8 Overturned By Openly Gay Judge

[Hitman 6]

Haha, "Openly Gay Judge"

Speaking of the brotherhood of Cali Fudge Packers, I'm heading to San Francisco over the weekend, Hopefully won't get raped and murdered by all those sissy lala GAY people.

(those were they gayest picture things I could find)

[Irving]

What does any of this gay hate have to do with whether there should be a law or not?

[TS12000]

I could care less. If it doesn't involve me why should I have any say in the matter? Two dudes want to get married, doesn't hurt me in the slightest, go for it. This should be a non-issue, just more govt regulation on whatever they can attach themselves to.

[Ranger]

You know, this was more of a rant post than anything else and it's not about gay marriage - I have my objections to it but I respect the will of the people if that's what they want. This is not MY state, so it doesn't affect me directly (although sets a precedent for other states). My problem with this isn't with gays, what they do is their business, it's with the majority vote of the people getting overruled, and overruled by a judge that probably should have removed himself from the case if there was any possibility of bias towards one party or the other.

To be perfectly honest, most of the gay people I know (and in my job I end up knowing quite a few) are some of the nicest and most compassionate people in the world who participate in a lifestyle that doesn't appeal to me. I just get tired of it being so trendy as to appear to be the "in" lifestyle choice and constantly rubbed in everyone's faces.

[jake]

My problem with this isn't with gays, what they do is their business, it's with the majority vote of the people getting overruled, and overruled by a judge that probably should have removed himself from the case if there was any possibility of bias towards one party or the other.

What possibility for bias was there? That he is gay? Wouldn't that also mean a straight judge would have to remove himself from the case? Everyone has bias, the best we can hope for is that the guy tries to look at it objectively. If you read the decision (I didn't read the whole thing, admittedly) he's not really saying "OMG you breeders are such brutes! We're gay and proud, let us marry!"

[Ranger]

What possibility for bias was there? That he is gay? Wouldn't that also mean a straight judge would have to remove himself from the case?

The bias IS that, yes, he is gay. And I see your point about if he were straight then that's a bias as well. However, you have to weigh this in with what is "average" (I was going to say normal but that would be mis-interpreted). On average marriage is between a man and a woman, but in this case they are trying to change the average, and he is on the "activist" side of the case.

The same would ring true if a Hispanic judge were to sit in ruling of a case where Hispanics gain some significant new right. If it were a black judge, there's no pony in the race. If it's a white judge then there is a high likelihood there is no pony in the race, but perhaps there might be.

I completely understand your point but I believe there is a difference in THIS case if a gay judge ruled on an appeal from the community that he is a part of. Who is to say that he wasn't for prop 8 to start with? Nobody, but any chance of impropriety has to be brought into question. In my experience, at least, it is more likely a gay person will be PRO gay than it is that a straight person will be ANTI gay.

All of this being said, he did the right thing by postponing his ruling pending the appeal. Perhaps he knew that there was possibility for bias in this case and by postponing the ruling he was appeasing both sides to some degree.

[DeusExMachina]

While I personally find homosexuality despicable, I'm a live and let live kind of guy, but when they start getting special rights for BEING gay, that just steams me.

I WISH that only gays could marry. Then women wouldn't bug me about it.

[Ranger]

I WISH that only gays could marry. Then women wouldn't bug me about it.

Is this a big problem for you, far too many women chasing you with marriage goggles on?

[Byte Stryke]

I'm not even going to get into the hate.
I'm only going to say that I Defend everyone's right to their opinion and their freedom of speech.

Regardless of how fucked up, narrow minded and ignorant it might be.


You folks have a great day!


Hitman6:
Since when is Golf Gay?
I'm Hurt

[StagLefty]

being gay is soo popular and everybody's doing it.

Whoa Whoa there cowboy !!! (John Wayne voice)