California Prop 8 Overturned By Openly Gay Judge

[Jumpstart]

Are you serious?

Is your next argument going to be "Okay, gays can get married, as long as I can marry a baker's dozen of 14 year olds."?

Talk about apples and oranges.

Your post smells of desperation.

[DeusExMachina]

Your post smells of desperation.

I know the term window licker, but are you attempting to coin "monitor sniffer"?

[Byte Stryke]

funny thing is that the same arguments I hear against gays getting married are the same panic-farming fear-monger type arguments I hear against guns.

If we let gays get Married, they will rape your children!
what in the hell?

if you sit down and think about it, Consenting ADULTS getting married to each other is no ones business except those two adults. One Might even go further and say that ANY number of adults getting married is no ones business except them as Monogamy has its roots as a religious practice!

So if a woman wanted to have two Husbands and none of them cared, who is to say its wrong?

If a White woman wants to marry an Asian man, Why in the hell should any of us care?

If two Women want to live together as wives or whatever naming convention they choose, who cares?

They consent, it's their lives, their business. It's not like keeping the lipstick Lesbians from marrying each other will improve any of your odds of getting Laid

[DeusExMachina]

I agree with Stuart and Byte, obviously.

Furthermore, the only real reason I see to be against gay marriage is religion. I see no other actual reason to be against it. Some people seem to forget that the amendment that came before our beloved 2nd calls for freedom of religion, and defining a seperation of church and state.

There is no logical reason gay marriage is not allowed. I also hate how the Republican party has become so focused on religion. It makes me sick.

[Jumpstart]

There is no logical reason gay marriage is not allowed. I also hate how the Republican party has become so focused on religion. It makes me sick.

1. Gay marriage serves no purpose to society.

2. A whole group of people make you "sick" because an element of their culture is religion? But your are good with homosexual activity and the homosexual agenda?

Wow..... and some wonder why the USA is on the downswing.

[Irving]

1. Gay marriage serves no purpose to society.

If you took a week off of work and put in 8 solid hours a day, I don't think you could be a bigger hypocrite.

[omio]

What blows my mind is that the middle class is slowly disappearing yet the big issue is 2 people of the same gender getting married. Yes America is really going down the shitter.

[Jumpstart]

If you took a week off of work and put in 8 solid hours a day, I don't think you could be a bigger hypocrite.

So I'm a hypocrite because my opinion differs from yours? That's pretty gay Stuart.

[Ranger]

There is no logical reason gay marriage is not allowed. I also hate how the Republican party has become so focused on religion. It makes me sick.

I believe the term 'marriage' should not be used in the context of same sex unions. Civil union would be a better term as marriage is generally considered a religious sacrament.

I'm sorry you are pissed at the party's stand on religion, Deus, but I'm for it. If our party didn't stand for religion then the liberals would tear it down to the point of forcing religion into hiding just as it once was. I believe that on the whole, religious people try to hold themselves to a higher moral standard and I see nothing wrong with that. That's not to say there are "religious" people who don't do that, but being a religious person myself I can say that my fellow religious friends are good people.

No matter what your view of religion is, it's hard to debate that the core teachings of most religions are generally a good "owners manual" in practice. Do not lie, do not kill, do not commit incest - these are not bad things. I'm sure you will argue otherwise, but nobody is infallible and of course religion can cause bad as well, as history has shown us.

[DeusExMachina]

1. Gay marriage serves no purpose to society.

2. A whole group of people make you "sick" because an element of their culture is religion? But your are good with homosexual activity and the homosexual agenda?

Wow..... and some wonder why the USA is on the downswing.

The homosexual agenda. Watch your cornhole, bud! If you're wondering why the USA is on the downswing, you just have to look in the mirror. You're a hypocrite in the most literal of definitions.

I believe the term 'marriage' should not be used in the context of same sex unions. Civil union would be a better term as marriage is generally considered a religious sacrament.

I don't know how gays would feel about this, but it makes sense. I'm sure there would be issues with it from some activists. Hell, I think in terms of government all marriages should be called civil unions. Marriages happen in church. Its really semantics, but would be a good division. But saying "we got civil union'd last fall" makes me cringe.

I'm sorry you are pissed at the party's stand on religion, Deus, but I'm for it. If our party didn't stand for religion then the liberals would tear it down to the point of forcing religion into hiding just as it once was. I believe that on the whole, religious people try to hold themselves to a higher moral standard and I see nothing wrong with that. That's not to say there are "religious" people who don't do that, but being a religious person myself I can say that my fellow religious friends are good people.

No matter what your view of religion is, it's hard to debate that the core teachings of most religions are generally a good "owners manual" in practice. Do not lie, do not kill, do not commit incest - these are not bad things. I'm sure you will argue otherwise, but nobody is infallible and of course religion can cause bad as well, as history has shown us.

I agree with this, but I feel like we should be beyond the "owners manual" portion of it. If the only reason people do not do evil is because of their religion, then that is a pretty weak set of morals. It certainly served the purpose a long time ago, but I think those teachings are ingrained in our society by now. Religion is for expanding one's spirituality, and I see no need for that in government. I don't think any government issue should be influenced by religion, and I think its more used as a "scapegoat" or a way to convince people to support a cause. "Hey, you're a Christian right? Well, any GOOD Christian would be for this. You want to be a GOOD Christian right?"