Quote Originally Posted by Jumpstart View Post
1. Gay marriage serves no purpose to society.

2. A whole group of people make you "sick" because an element of their culture is religion? But your are good with homosexual activity and the homosexual agenda?

Wow..... and some wonder why the USA is on the downswing.

The homosexual agenda. Watch your cornhole, bud! If you're wondering why the USA is on the downswing, you just have to look in the mirror. You're a hypocrite in the most literal of definitions.

Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
I believe the term 'marriage' should not be used in the context of same sex unions. Civil union would be a better term as marriage is generally considered a religious sacrament.
I don't know how gays would feel about this, but it makes sense. I'm sure there would be issues with it from some activists. Hell, I think in terms of government all marriages should be called civil unions. Marriages happen in church. Its really semantics, but would be a good division. But saying "we got civil union'd last fall" makes me cringe.
Quote Originally Posted by Ranger
I'm sorry you are pissed at the party's stand on religion, Deus, but I'm for it. If our party didn't stand for religion then the liberals would tear it down to the point of forcing religion into hiding just as it once was. I believe that on the whole, religious people try to hold themselves to a higher moral standard and I see nothing wrong with that. That's not to say there are "religious" people who don't do that, but being a religious person myself I can say that my fellow religious friends are good people.

No matter what your view of religion is, it's hard to debate that the core teachings of most religions are generally a good "owners manual" in practice. Do not lie, do not kill, do not commit incest - these are not bad things. I'm sure you will argue otherwise, but nobody is infallible and of course religion can cause bad as well, as history has shown us.
I agree with this, but I feel like we should be beyond the "owners manual" portion of it. If the only reason people do not do evil is because of their religion, then that is a pretty weak set of morals. It certainly served the purpose a long time ago, but I think those teachings are ingrained in our society by now. Religion is for expanding one's spirituality, and I see no need for that in government. I don't think any government issue should be influenced by religion, and I think its more used as a "scapegoat" or a way to convince people to support a cause. "Hey, you're a Christian right? Well, any GOOD Christian would be for this. You want to be a GOOD Christian right?"