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    BP any special training needed ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StagLefty View Post
    BP any special training needed ?

    All we get is basic first aid and cpr cards.
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    glad you stopped and tried to help!
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    Extrication is tricky. Unless you are trained and hold current extrication Certifications, ie, your day-job is rescue you need to Look REALLY hard at the situation.

    Is the person Alert and REQUESTING ASSISTANCE? "Hey, I am OK, But the seat-belt in jammed."
    Is the person in IMMEDIATE Danger? (Fire, water immersion, Impending Collision)
    Is the Person in a position wherein you would be unable to treat a potentially LIFE THREATENING injury? ( IE: CPR (assumes you are trained) in inverted or severely damaged vehicle)

    If you cannot Answer Yes to one or more of those LEAVE THEM IN PLACE!
    You may offer aid in place (direct pressure to bleeding wounds, etc) But Encourage them to Stay in Place!

    Keeping in Mind this is a Guideline and worth as much as you have paid for it.
    I urge anyone with further questions to contact the red cross or their local EMS for further guidance

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    Just being there with an injured person until the pros arrive is huge !!! I've been on both sides of that.
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    I've been first responder at a roll over before. I didn't know anything to do, and wasn't the only one who stopped though, so I just left. I got my ass chewed out when I got to work since I was already late.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBear View Post
    Maybe someone can shed some light on this: I am not a medic, but last I heard that civies giving first aid after a major car wreck is a no-no as you could be sued for all kinds of crap if something happens and someone DOA's or whatever. Is that true? Does the Good Samaritan rule not go into effect?

    Elhuero, what all are you going to put in your first aid kit?
    Quote Originally Posted by StagLefty View Post
    Good Samaritan goes into effect-as long as your trying to help with best intentions. Good for you Elhuero-Like Bear said too many folks just keep going.
    I keep my BOB stocked with 1st Aid supplies in case of need-especially Israeli Bandages in case of severe bleeding.I've taken several Basic Emergency 1st Aid courses over the years so I'm comfortable in offering Basic help such as stopping bleeding etc.
    Colorado does have a Good Samaritan Act in place, but not all states do. I'll have to see if I can dig up my copy of the Act. I used to provide it to folks that I trained in USAF "Self Aid & Buddy Care". Amazingly, some states will still hold folks 100% accountable for rendering assistance within their level of training/capabilities if something goes wrong. There are even recent cases of individuals getting sued for providing CPR to a patient that ended up with broken ribs (very common for CPR) or for some that eventually died of the heart attack.



    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    Extrication is tricky. Unless you are trained and hold current extrication Certifications, ie, your day-job is rescue you need to Look REALLY hard at the situation.

    Is the person Alert and REQUESTING ASSISTANCE? "Hey, I am OK, But the seat-belt in jammed."
    Is the person in IMMEDIATE Danger? (Fire, water immersion, Impending Collision)
    Is the Person in a position wherein you would be unable to treat a potentially LIFE THREATENING injury? ( IE: CPR (assumes you are trained) in inverted or severely damaged vehicle)

    If you cannot Answer Yes to one or more of those LEAVE THEM IN PLACE!
    You may offer aid in place (direct pressure to bleeding wounds, etc) But Encourage them to Stay in Place!

    Keeping in Mind this is a Guideline and worth as much as you have paid for it.
    I urge anyone with further questions to contact the red cross or their local EMS for further guidance
    Perfect advice there Byte Stryke!

    I'd add to that:
    Stay with the victims, watching for shock and unconsciousness.
    Keep them calm but don't move them unless they absolutely need to be moved.
    Be VERY cautious of the comments that you make as this alone is enough to put someone into shock.
    Notify authorities ASAP.

    Just my $0.02

    BTW: Excellent job Elhuero! Honestly proud of you man.
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