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    Gong Shooter
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    Default Are you an Arvada Police Officer? (or any Officer) Would you PM me please?

    Greetings,

    I'm looking to chat with an Arvada Police Officer about the best way to prevent an uncomfortable encounter. We just signed a new parenting agreement with my wife's ex-husband regarding his weekend visitation of our 6 year old daughter. The new agreement gives my wife the right to have a visual walk-through of his residence prior to every visitation by our daughter (trust me it was necessary, last year he took her to an abandoned flop house in Lakewood, his decision making is flawed).

    We really need some advice on how best to proceed to make sure my wife is not in any danger while inside his apartment, not the least of which is to have an Officer outside on a "stand-by to prevent" call. We just don't want to waste the time of an Officer who could be out there doing real good for the community having to play baby-sitter with us.

    I should have written this sooner but we just signed the agreement on Friday and the 1st walk-through is at 5pm.

    Thanks in advance, feel free to post replies or PM if you want to chat in private.

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    I'm not an LEO, but have a few thoughts as a single Dad -

    Is she his daughter, or yours?

    Can you stay outside while your wife does the inspection?

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    I have been in my daughter's life since her 3rd birthday, she just turned 6 last month. In my heart she is my daughter, biology or no biology. I love her. Her bio-dad is missing all but a few of his teeth, has no "recordable job", is 5 months behind on child support, drives her without a license or insurance while smoking cigarettes. I am the only positive Father she has in her life.

    Sorry for the rant, yes, I will absolutely be outside but the last thing I want is a confrontation in front of my little girl. She's already freaked out enough as he involves her in adult matters all the time. He sobs on her shoulders all the tiem about how life has just dealt him such a bad hand. One of my N.Y.P.D buddies I keep in touch with refers to him as "A bad guy".

    We're thinking the best way is to have her cell phone on speaker to me while video recording everything with a hand-held camera this way there can be no misunderstanding. I stand outside the door with the door open.

    Please know that this is the last thing we want to have to do every week but he's such snake. How people can use children as pawns is beyond my belief system.

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    Man, that's a tough situation.

    What did your attorney recommend?

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    Unfortunately, after talking over so many different issues with our attorney about the new order, we let the "how to" slip regarding the inspection. If he were a reasonable person we'd just call him to talk it over so there would be no problem. But he's not a reasonable person and he would use everything we talk to him about as a sign of weakness on our part and cause problems for problems sake.

    I suppose we just have to take tonight 1 step at a time and if my wife feels unsafe at any moment she just leaves and we take it up in court on Monday.

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    man, sticky situation for sure. In any case where a child is involved, there is alot of emotions. I'd use LE for the first time and see how it goes. This kind of situation can get out of controll very quickly. good luck. you sound like a good dude for stepping up for the child.

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    Well, be careful GS.

    Let us know how it goes for you -

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    Quote Originally Posted by mx'r View Post
    I'd use LE for the first time and see how it goes.
    X2

    If it's an option there's no reason not to IMO. Maybe even give the dude a heads up so he knows what to expect thus not causing a scene in front of the kid.

    Have you called the PD to see what they're thoughts are on the situation?
    Do what you've always done and get what you've always gotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveopia View Post
    X2

    If it's an option there's no reason not to IMO. Maybe even give the dude a heads up so he knows what to expect thus not causing a scene in front of the kid.

    Have you called the PD to see what they're thoughts are on the situation?
    Thought about calling them, I guess a friendly heads up would be prudent to put it out there that we don't want any problems.

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    Mind you I am not an attorney or a LEO, but there are a few things that I would be contesting.
    • Smoking around the child or placing the child in an environment where smoking occurs, Arguable as Child endangerment.(I actually faced this one a few years back)
    • The Car Insurance and Licensing issue shows lack of personal and civil responsibility. Your Daughter would not be covered in the event of an accident.(from his side)
    I would bring these up at the courthouse, make them a point of visitation "In the Best Interest of the Child's welfare and safety." (You wont find anyone to argue against that.)

    If you Honestly believe he is a danger, Call the Local PD.
    You are only wasting their time if its NOT a probability. Some PDs/Sherrifs have/had Domestic Advocates. They come out, walk the house or accompany Visitations/Exchanges that have a history of "issues".

    Asking for help isn't an issue. I Certainly wouldn't be afraid to call someone out if I thought that Harm might come to a member of my Family.

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