Islam Perversion My Butt!

[BigBear]

I know of no mainstream Christian religion that doesn't (in whole or in part) discard the laws of the Old Testament.

I say if you are Christian, I need a maid around my house, how much as you willing to sell your daughter for? Exodus 21:7

H.

And here we go....

Most Christians DO disregard the "laws" of the Old Testament because they are now invalid. The Laws were rules to live by in order to be sinless deemed "holy" enough to stand by God. No human would ever be able to accomplish that a live a perfect life. Hence God sent his Son, Jesus Christ, to live that life and die on the cross taking our "sins" and offering eternal salvation.

Now, we are able to sin and be forgiven... the great conundrum of free will.

That is why there is the NEW Testament. We used to have to sacrfice anuimals and only priests could enter the Temples to beg for forgiveness for the general populations sins. When Jesus died, the curtains surrounding teh temple altar were torn. People don't have to sacrifice or worship in temples anymore. Anyone, anywhere now has the ability to go directly to God. The Old Testament is simply now part of the cannon and an historical record. As far as the daughter for the maid, Exodus is part of the Old Testmaent.

Over 98% of families have Bibles... but I doubt even 20% read them.

[Mtn.man]

Look-a-here

http://www.investigativeproject.org/...rorism-map.php

[Hoosier]

Sigh. I'm trying to make a point unrelated to the actual teaching of the bible. Allow me to try this again:

If you read Dianetics by L. Ron Hubbard, and assume that by reading this book you understand all of Scientology, and that everyone who calls themself a Scientologist will always act exactly according to that book, you're making the same misguided pre-judgement of Scientologists as the first video is advocating about Islam.

Now, because I haven't read the Qur'ran or any of the other books Col West suggests, I hit up a Muslim I know who also happens to be an active AR shooter. Here is his take on (I think mostly the second video)

This video clip is the perspective of an extremist. I really don't feel like going further than that.

Muslims should not pick and choose, yes, but this fellow seems to be picking and choosing an awful not and citing abrogation as his justification. Abrogation is for verses like "don't drink if you are praying" followed by "don't drink at all". This was a specific means of weaning the booze-happy pagan arabs away from liquor w/o resulting in a city full of people in the throws of delirium tremens. When the Qur'an tells us to leave people who won't believe be that is a general statement regarding non believers that are around us. When it says "go forth and kill the nonbeliever" that is in the context of a war that was going on at a specific point in time, with specific nonbelievers and specific battles that are mentioned in the Qur'an.

This guy also implys that Shari'ah law is in the Qur'an and the Qur'an alone. This is incorrect. Shari'ah is extracted from The Qur'an, yes, but also The Ahadith; a collection of orally transmitted traditions attributed to The Prophet, his companions, and God. These passages make up the bulk of what we identify as Shari'ah. Like anything else the exegetical process is prone to error, since exegesis is a human endeavor.

Additionally, Shari'ah is not imposed on society. Whenever this happens it makes things worse for everyone except those in power. Shari'ah is intended to be an emergent behavior, something that emanates forth from the behavior of the individual, then the family, then the society, then the nation. If these conditions can't be met Muslims are commanded to adhere to the laws of the land in which they live, so long as those laws don't command them to sin.

I should have watched this last night, now I am going to be pissed off all day.

And speaking of AR15's:

http://i.imgur.com/VA31Y.jpg

H.

[BigBear]

Okay, thanks Hoosier for clearing that up. I always hear about people using the Old Testmaent to call so and so a hypocrit or that Christians are wrong or blah, blah, blah... For all intensive purposes, with the introduction of the New Testament, the Old testament and hte Laws is now just a historical context book.

[Hoosier]

Ok, we can wrap up this entire discussion now! The Taiwainese animators have covered all the bases. You guys will love the secret muslim Obama with a burning heart in the oval office.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WO_XOOxn7c

Hilarious

H.

[ChunkyMonkey]

hahahah...

[BigBear]

lol, can anyone translate?

[jake]

lol, can anyone translate?

I think the v/o actually presents a more coherent and informed summary of the whole situation without translation

[BigBear]

I didn't hear a voice over... just taiwainese writing and a taiwainese speaker...

[ERNO]

Hoosier did a good job of misdirecting here, your all talking about someone other then the enemy now.
Christians and Jews or even Wicken's did not attack America on 9/11 it was Muslims in the name of Islam and Mohammad.
They are our enemy and they have been the enemy of free people the world over for a very long time.
They have spread death and destruction through Africia and Asia and terrorize Europe to the point they are afraid to exercise free speech because they will and are being killed for it.
Sure some small portion is peacefull and tollerant of others but the majority are not and if you dont understand that, go live in the above mentioned locations and see how nice they are, but dont try to convince us how sweet they are and how we should accept them, they dont accept us any place on earth. We want to continue to live free and to do that, islam must stay the hell out of America.
to mohammad and his followers of destruction and intolerance.

I believe that the main reason that the muslims who commit violence in the name of Islam against the U.S., truly believe that the U.S. is a staunch supporter of Israel's policy of imperialism and genocide against the Palistianain people. And until the U.S. stops sending money and arms to Israel ;and gets tough on Israel's colonialism,invasions into Lebanon ,the blockcading of the Gaza Strip,and the refusal of sincere peace talks;the U.S. will be perceived as "infidels". The word "infidels" came from the Crusader's ,who battled the Muslim's a long time ago;who called the muslim's "infidels".
I thought somebody told me this is a free country?And for order for that to be true;one of the ways is to practice religious tolerance.