Islam Perversion My Butt!

[Byte Stryke]

So we have seen the enemy,, and It is Us...



Wow this has turned into a real religious batte field.

I am not here to "battle" Anyone, I just think of how absurd it is that we can send men to the moon, Build Lasers rangefinders that will determine Ranges over miles in any weather with almost absolute accuracy. But we still believe that there is an invisible man in the sky that says we have to kill each other because he loves us...

Its almost as crazy as believing that hurricane Katrina happened because the God Poseidon/Allah/whatever was angry at the non-believers.

[jim02]

So we got the Jew haters in here and the religon haters and a few America haters all chiming in. Sorry to see you all have learned nothing yet about our current situation.

The evil imperialist Americans or Gods chosen people the Jews or the Christians are not the ones killing people the world over right now because they are diffrent and they are not the ones living in ancient times opressing people the world over, its Mohammads people who are.
If you have not been able to see all the people we have lifted up, delivered from opression and helped rebuild all over the world, you need to start looking outside the circle your in for the truth.

I agree not every follower is out to get us, but I would estimate its over 1% that want shria law and do want to see us dead. 1% of a billion is a million, we sure have not come close to defeating a million of them yet, so yes we are very much in harms way especially when some of you cant even face up to the facts and are not smart enough to keep yourself safe.

The US Constitution was built on the principle that those that lived under it would support it first and not try to use the powers it grants to destroy it. Shria law and much of the current pratices of Islam oppose the rights the US Constitution grants us by defaut of Islams own rules.
If you so want to see your freedoms go away, pack your shit and go.

[Byte Stryke]

So we got the Jew haters in here and the religon haters and a few America haters all chiming in. Sorry to see you all have learned nothing yet about our current situation.

The evil imperialist Americans or Gods chosen people the Jews or the Christians are not the ones killing people the world over right now because they are diffrent and they are not the ones living in ancient times opressing people the world over, its Mohammads people who are.
If you have not been able to see all the people we have lifted up, delivered from opression and helped rebuild all over the world, you need to start looking outside the circle your in for the truth.

I agree not every follower is out to get us, but I would estimate its over 1% that want shria law and do want to see us dead. 1% of a billion is a million, we sure have not come close to defeating a million of them yet, so yes we are very much in harms way especially when some of you cant even face up to the facts and are not smart enough to keep yourself safe.

The US Constitution was built on the principle that those that lived under it would support it first and not try to use the powers it grants to destroy it. Shria law and much of the current pratices of Islam oppose the rights the US Constitution grants us by defaut of Islams own rules.
If you so want to see your freedoms go away, pack your shit and go.

Wow...


Just

WOW


I won't even try to explain that much Bias.

[rockhound]

yes i mentioned britain, the numbers of people who actually belong to a group are irrelevant, the fact is they are becoming empowered and believe they have rights that are above the law of the land making them a danger to our freedoms. to dismiss them out of hand is to be naive to a fault.

three more men (muslim) were arrested yesterday in canada in a terror plot with multiple targets and the triggers for 50 bombs. follow up stories have already linked them to Al Qaeda.

"citing security sources, said the accused were part of a group of "dangerous radical Islamists"

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/stor...o.html?ref=rss

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/10082...attacks_arrest


GOD FORBID WE IDENTIFY OUR ENEMY. THIS POLITICALLY CORRECT BS WILL BE THE END OF US.

[jake]

yes i mentioned britain, the numbers of people who actually belong to a group are irrelevant, the fact is they are becoming empowered and believe they have rights that are above the law of the land making them a danger to our freedoms. to dismiss them out of hand is to be naive to a fault.

Of course it's relevant. Your angle seemed to be "look what happens if we get all pc and wishy-washy" so the fact that a government that a lot of you would consider to be hard-core Stalinists because they're left of centre actually took the decidedly un-PC and anti First Amendment step of saying "this organization is now illegal and if you're a member, you're a criminal" renders your point moot.

If you were trying to demonstrate how Britain is slowly turning into an Islamic state because they're too soft on Muslims, you couldn't have chosen a worse example than an organization that hardly anyone was a member of, that did absolutely nothing other than release a few statements designed to garner attention, that everyone spoke out against (including other Muslims) and that was banned by the government.

[rockhound]

Of course it's relevant. Your angle seemed to be "look what happens if we get all pc and wishy-washy" so the fact that a government that a lot of you would consider to be hard-core Stalinists because they're left of centre actually took the decidedly un-PC and anti First Amendment step of saying "this organization is now illegal and if you're a member, you're a criminal" renders your point moot.

If you were trying to demonstrate how Britain is slowly turning into an Islamic state because they're too soft on Muslims, you couldn't have chosen a worse example than an organization that hardly anyone was a member of, that did absolutely nothing other than release a few statements designed to garner attention, that everyone spoke out against (including other Muslims) and that was banned by the government.

you know you and i have had discussions similar to this before, and that is my point to some extent. the fact that you do not see the importance in every event is the problem.the fact is that these small tolerances keep happening over and over in the name of PCness and as they do our beliefs, our safety and our freedoms are being compromised by the attitudes that you seem to be infatuated with.

the irrelevance of any one act, event or incident can be waived off as being insignificant. taken as a whole they are dangerous and to simply waive them off as unimportant is again naive to a fault.

you are voluntarily burying your head in the sand which is exactly what they are counting on.

all of us (those that oppose the proliferation of islam within our borders) have already conceded that not every muslim is dangerous, but that doesn't seem to have hit home with you. no one is arguing that every muslim is a terrorist, but whenever someone shows even one of the ten thousand acts they have perpetrated as an example of how they are a threat you have some touchy feely reason why it should be ignored.

this discussion is moot as you have made up your mind to be overly tolerant. trying to be everyone's friend just doesn't work. they (again not every muslim) don't want to be your friend they ( the extremists) would just as soon see you and you family dead than speak to you. if you think that this is not true then you are already defeated.

[jake]

Perhaps you can explain what should have been done then? If banning the organization and criminalizing all of its members is too tolerant and PC for you, what would you suggest? Cutting off their hands? Stoning them? Offering them the choice of conversion or death?

And when did I suggest that the event was unimportant? Clearly it's a very important event as it demonstrates that a wishy-washy, PC government of a country that (according to some here) is a generation away from being an Islamic state took a stand against Islamic extremists and said "we will not accept this happening within our own borders."

The problem is, you don't actually know what I think (other than that not every Muslim is an extremist, which you've just admitted you agree with) because it's easier for you to assume I think they're all misunderstood and we should just convert now to make it nice and painless.

[StagLefty]

I am not here to "battle" Anyone, I just think of how absurd it is that we can send men to the moon, Build Lasers rangefinders that will determine Ranges over miles in any weather with almost absolute accuracy. But we still believe that there is an invisible man in the sky that says we have to kill each other because he loves us...

Its almost as crazy as believing that hurricane Katrina happened because the God Poseidon/Allah/whatever was angry at the non-believers.

Kind of a double edged sword ???

[Ranger]

But we still believe that there is an invisible man in the sky

Wow, that sounds like some serious contempt for religion. I refuse to get into a debate about religion, but I'll tell you that I once felt the same way and changed my mind. Everyone can have their opinions, and I love that about America, but it does sound like a battle when you put forth such a statement. For folks with no religious belief, and I was one of them, it may sound like a load of crap but it's a load of crap that 4/5ths of the world believes in (all religions).

[Elhuero]

atheists.

a group of people who have a certain common set of beliefs regarding the nature of the universe, and think that anyone who disagrees with them is wrong.

yeah. that's not like a religion at all.