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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordanls19 View Post
    Shotspotter? Maybe a good idea but a little to close to us being watched 25 hours a day. Or I'm just paranoid, probably both.

    I have buddies that work in DC Metro PD. Certain districts in the District have them. I certainly wouldn't worry about that technology being used as a big brother tool. In fact lots of things set them off, such as train whistles, car backfires, etc. They usually get verified first...and not to mention if you live in a jurisdiction that uses them (and is willing to pay for such technology) then believe me, you live in a bad neighborhood

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    Bad arrest.

    Gangs are dangerous, but the real villain here are the bad gun laws and the broken legal system that criminalizes self defense.

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    I agree with OgenRwot in it being a bad shoot. While we have a semblance of the "castle doctrine" here in Colorado, it deals solely with the interior of the residence and being in fear of your life or the lives of your family. On the porch, on the grass, on the street in front of the house doesn't cut it. Preempting a supposed attack doesn't cut it, the supposed 'Bernie Goetz' defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneGuy67 View Post
    I agree with OgenRwot in it being a bad shoot. While we have a semblance of the "castle doctrine" here in Colorado, it deals solely with the interior of the residence and being in fear of your life or the lives of your family. On the porch, on the grass, on the street in front of the house doesn't cut it. Preempting a supposed attack doesn't cut it, the supposed 'Bernie Goetz' defense.

    In your yard, and on your property has been successfully defended in court in CO. One case even where the dead perp had NO weapon.

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    I am surely glad I took Jim's CCW class. He taught plenty on how to respond to police's questions in case you have to defend yourself. /end advertisement
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.man View Post
    In your yard, and on your property has been successfully defended in court in CO. One case even where the dead perp had NO weapon.
    And it has also been successfully charged and convicted on as it is not an established "castle doctrine" defense. Which side do you want to fall on?

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    We don't live in the City so guess the rule is interpreted differently.

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    I can tell you from my personal experience that some of the rural law enforcement agencies will not pursue criminal charges where others would, given the local needs and experiences.

    One of my experiences deals with a previously convicted felon in possession of a firearm (two actually) and the local rural sheriff wasn't interested in pursuing the charge due to a number of reasons. The charges were filed by a different agency and is still being mulled over by the local DA for the last 6 weeks as we speak.

    This type of situation and charge would not have an eye batted at it by agencies and DA's in the metro areas and this felon would be on his way back to prison for the parole violation and new conviction.

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    I seriously doubt that anyone here in Colorado would go to jail for firing a couple warning shots into the ground when their home is surrounded by 20+ gang members shouting death threats.

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    This is the type of guy that probably shouldn't have a firearm. He's so shaken by suspicious people lurking around that he shoots a warning shot to send them away? Get the gun, keep it handy and if the guys threaten you with your life then you think about grabbing a gun. These guys probably would have left him alone if he didn't confront them, but now they won't EVER leave him alone. Stupid move and he deserved to get busted.
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