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    Machine Gunner esaabye's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart View Post
    LOL, it's been so long since I've seen that term that I didn't know what you were talking about.

    I always figured I'd purchase a factory gun, just so I could familiarize myself with the platform, and go from there. I always hear people say that if you build your own, you can get exactly what you want, but since I've never had one, I have no idea what I want.

    Now, I'll bow out and back to your regularly scheduled program.
    Stu, suggest you just drop a nickle in an ammo can for every post, you will have your fist AR in no time...


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    Point taken.
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    I've seen some home builds to salavate over. I've seen some home builds that were paper weights. In every instance, the success or failure came down to the intelligence level of the builder. Even the first home gun builds, the intelligent ones read, and read, and find assistance, and read... (you get the point). The retards, well, they really like to talk about "how much money they saved" for their masculine paper weight.

    I know this is going to be a news flash from me after my "buy the most expensive gun you can" thread, but quality parts cost more than shitty parts. The parts that work better are more sought by shooters, therefore harder to come by, and (this is a shocked and awed face) cost more money.

    So, in conclusion, I would have to say the reliability and accuracy of the home build is completely dependent on the builder's intelligence and their willingness to use quality parts in their build.

    As to what the most common failures are; breaking the little parts that take subtlety to assemble, shooting springs and retaining pins into the next county (and losing them), jacking up gas tubes/jacking up barrel nuts, buying BCG's that the key isn't steaked (that's my favorite one), bending the shit out of the gas rings and then wondering why they blew off into the action and F'ed everything up, commercial/mil spec buffers and tubes and a complete lack of understanding there are two different sizes. Did I mention shooting springs and pins off into outerspace?
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    I tried to save some money with a "Trigger Job" rather than paying for the improved trigger to start with. I ended up purchasing both as well as dealing with unpredictable trigger as I learned the hard way.

    Dropped in a Rock River NM and never looked back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by esaabye View Post
    I tried to save some money with a "Trigger Job" rather than paying for the improved trigger to start with. I ended up purchasing both as well as dealing with unpredictable trigger as I learned the hard way.

    Dropped in a Rock River NM and never looked back.
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    About all you want to do to a stock trigger is stone polish the engagement surfaces. They are Casehardened just a few thousandths deep and you cut too deep and you are into softer material. If that happens you now have some strange shaped fishing weights.


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    Thanks all! Though I'm not the sharpest tack in the box, I felt that I rose to the occasion in terms of a thoughtful build process.

    I guess the lowest end of parts I used was a DPMS LPK and I've already replaced the trigger group with a RRA two stage.

    I weld custom bicycle frames in Titanium and steel, so I "get" attention to detail and craftsmanship.

    The torture test would obviously be a 1000+ round carbine course. $$$$ Maybe soon....

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    Another way some people fail is with optics. They'll spend $1000+ on their weapon, then mount a $35.00 reddot and wonder why they are printing 1' instead of 1" groups.

    I would much rather depend on a $350.00 rifle with a $1,000 worth of glass on it than a $1000 rifle with $350.00 worth of glass.

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