Article on Political Correctness and profiling

[Hoosier]

Right now, being labeled a racist is the trump card for the other side to shut up people who disagree with their positions, their legislation, their attacks on our society.

There's no reason this should be so. If you aren't a racist, then someone shouting it at you shouldn't matter. The ideologues on both ends of the spectrum hurl insults. There certainly are racists who hate Obama just for being black... but I don't think it's a very large percentage. I'm sure there were racists who hated Bush for being white... also not a very large percentage. Anyone who has a reasoned explanation for disagreeing with the efforts of the Dems -- not a racist. So don't even sweat this canard.

H.

[Hoosier]

Profiling, stereotypes, etc exists for a reason whether people want to admit it or not. It's not paranoia..... It's proven not to be a bunch of white girls on a ski team from Norway who are committing "acts of violence and terrorism".

What proof? Just because none from those subgroups have attacked yet, doesn't mean they're incapable of it. And more to the point, if you make an exception for female Norwegian ski teams, then it behooves the terrorists to convert one, or get one of their own into whatever group has a free pass through security.

The only way to "win" is to increase screening for everyone. This carries a cost though, in that everyone is additionally hassled. The real truth here is the axiom that "Security is equal to one over convenience."

H.

[OneGuy67]

I certainly agree with that Hoosier. However, taking an example from our local headlines, look at the guys in Boulder who are screaming racism and alleging Boulder is a racist city due to an altercation with guys from a different race. Its the headline in the tv news and print. Especially since we the public, are only getting one side of this argument and of course, every argument has two sides. What actions or statements did the African guy say or do? I'm not buying he is innocent in this. Interviewing the head of the black caucus at CU and him stating CU is a racist university. Really? How did that help the situation? Or do we use that sound byte to add validity to the victim's story?

That's what I refer to. it is the trump card used that gets headlines, that gets people to back away, that gets attention because no one wants to be thought of as not taking racism seriously, of not believing the victim of racisim, of not investigating thoroughly due to the allegation of racism, due to not being villified in the news media.

I'm not racist, but I do shrink from being called a racist. It does stop me from vocalizing certain thoughts and beliefs on our immigration policies, of dealing with certain crimes, and to an extent while I was on patrol, to giving more leeway or courtesy in order to keep me and my agency out of the media for an alleged incident or contact. Is it right? Hell no.

[BigBear]

What proof? Just because none from those subgroups have attacked yet, doesn't mean they're incapable of it. And more to the point, if you make an exception for female Norwegian ski teams, then it behooves the terrorists to convert one, or get one of their own into whatever group has a free pass through security.

The only way to "win" is to increase screening for everyone. This carries a cost though, in that everyone is additionally hassled. The real truth here is the axiom that "Security is equal to one over convenience."

H.

Proof that the Norwegian female ski teams hasn't committed any crimes? ... ok, well they have nothing on record as a group or individually!!

My point was simply stating that profiling and sterotypes exist for a reason. If the terrorists wanted to convert a female Norwegian skier, then let 'em try. That wasn't the point. My point was that even though ever ethinicity/skin color/etc has some agregious and atrocious crime/genocide/whatever on their hands, sterotyping/profiling serves a purpose. In that, how many white Americans or even Illegal Mexicans do you see hijacking planes or blowing themselves up in market places, etc?

It's just a different side of thought. My personal thought is that the only way to "win" is not to increase screening for everyone. It's to wipe the "problem" off the face of the Earth without mercy... The whole "live and let live"... but then we get into the whole problem of "turn the other cheek and forgive"...and that opens a whole other paradox/conundrum/fight that I won't even get into as it seems some people on here tend to get a little viscious about certain topics...

[Elhuero]

The only way to "win" is stow political correctness, then seek out the extremists and kill them wherever they are.

[theGinsue]

Now that's a plan I can get behind.

[Byte Stryke]

The only way to "win" is stow political correctness, then seek out the extremists and kill them wherever they are.

You know its gonna be a long week when you agree with the "ElHuero"

[Troublco]

The only way to "win" is stow political correctness, then seek out the extremists and kill them wherever they are.

Now that's a plan I can get behind.

You know its gonna be a long week when you agree with the "ElHuero"

When you're right, you're right.


This is one of those problems best fixed with large amounts of high explosive and belt fed automatic weapons.

[theGinsue]

This is one of those problems best fixed with large amounts of high explosive and belt fed automatic weapons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAhVmjptZMI