Why is everyone anti-PayPal/eBay?

[ChunkyMonkey]

Bah, forget ebay! Facebook is the new way to make some $$ on the side for those of you who work at home!

[Troublco]

There is always Gunbroker!

Thank goodness for Gunbroker!

[OgenRwot]

and as far as your "Civil protection" Argument, That would be like someone suing this site because a gun was sold here.
its not the Sites responsibility to ensure the laws are being followed. I Dont see a badge anywhere here, none of their business enforcing laws or dictating them.

I am a grown fucking adult. If I break a law its not your fault, or the websites fault, or the gun Manufacturers fault or my Moms Fault or anyone's fault for that matter.

I'm sure you wouldn't sue and nobody is saying that you would. But for every one "grown f****** adult" there are 1,000 people looking to get rich quick. So this argument doesn't hold up.

Stop trying to regulate who what where when and how I do anything.
We don't need additional regulation, we need the regulations we have enforced. Corporate bailouts and mergers making companies "too big to fail".
How would you feel if you went to "ABC Burgers" and bought an "abc Meal" for $4.96. you hand me your card and I ring it at $5.00. I then inform you that all credit card and debit card transactions are processed by our "ABC Billing system" which adds %4 processing fee and a $2.00 transaction fee. You then decide to pay with Cash. I tell you Sorry, we only accept payments through our ABC Billing systems.

They can "regulate" whatever and whomever they want within their transactions and website, they are a private company. If you don't like it, take your business elsewhere.

So back to your original Question.
I Don't want Feebay for Paypal, I Dont want to pay for selling something and then be forced into using YOUR Shipping company at YOUR Exaggerated rates buying Your Boxes and then PAY again to get my Money from YOUR Payment system.
and I'm sure as fuck not paying someone to "round up" on my bill as a buyer either.

Again, take your business elsewhere.

I dont like that they feel they are a government are are authorized to seize peoples money for selling raffle-tickets or a sling.

This is your first valid point as to why PayPal is bad. I need to go back and read the article on it a little closer to see exactly what happened...

You got stock or something?
You sure are arguing hard for someone with no vested interest.
just wondering

I too am a bit curious about your somewhat spirited defense of eBay/PayPal. If you like 'em, fine. I doubt you'll find too many here that do.

No I don't have any stock in either company or the parent company or whatever. And even if I did I wouldn't advocate using PayPal on a small forum to increase my dividends.

I find it very hypocritical that users on a conservative gun board that I have seen advocate for free markets and personal responsibility and rah rah private business can go ballistic on a private entity that isn't actually "anti-gun" in the sense that they give zero dollars to anti-gun lobby groups. They are a company that chooses not to allow something and people here don't like that so they freak out. It's a scenario of people wanting to have their cake and eat it too.

I started this thread because I am pretty sick of seeing users piss in every single for sale ad or industry partner thread that says "PayPal" in it. If you don't like it fine, don't use PayPal and don't buy from that person but don't pollute a member's for sale ad. Not to mention it's against the TOS.

I have a spirited defense because the argument against PayPal is unfounded. It doesn't hold up to our own beliefs. Everyone just says "F*** PayPal because they don't do what I want them to" and yet our (mostly) free market system, that we claim to love, is what let's them do it. Again, they aren't giving money to Brady or any other gun grabbing organization, so therefore they aren't "anti-gun". I just don't like people spreading false truths. Shit, the one of the people that founded eBay is a STRONG CONSERVATIVE that opposes any new gun control and is running for Governor of California right now.

These kind of arguments that aren't founded in truth make us look stupid as conservatives. It's like when liberals compare conservatives to Hitler when in fact Fascism was about as "progressive" as it gets. It makes them look stupid. The whole argument against PayPal is because they choose to protect themselves against frivolous lawsuits. I don't see how that makes them anti-gun. Ever notice how most gun shops have signs that say "No loaded weapons"? Seems a little odd doesn't it? It's the same thing.

[Irving]

I think it is not irrational to assume that a company whose entire business is to sell everything it can, is anti-something, when they decide not to sell that "something" that is totally legal. Byte Stryke certainly is on the extremist side of things, but in general I don't think it is going too far, or acting too dumb, to assume that certain companies are anti-gun because of certain practices.

[runoma]

Hey ... it's real simple. If you are not for us ... you are against us.
Ask yourself this: are moderate Moslems supporting islamo-fascist jihadist terrorism, by not speaking out against it?
Or, are they excused because they do not give money directly to the terrorists?

[Irving]

Wow, haha.

[jake]

It certainly does seem to be one of those days.

[ronaldrwl]

The moon is full tonight

[ChunkyMonkey]

Wow..how.. what? we are there again?

[Irving]

Hey ... it's real simple. If you are not for us ... you are against us.

You tell 'em Ricky!