Gun show "Loop hole"

[BlasterBob]

OK, this may "muddy up the waters" even a little more.
I looked up the Colorado law on BACKGROUND CHECKS - GUN SHOWS.

Under 12-26.1.106 is reads,
"Gun show" means the entire premises provided for an event or function, including but not limited to parking areas for the event or function, that is sponsored to facilitate, in whole or in part, the purchase, sale, offer for sale, or collection of firearms at which:
(a) twenty-five or more firearms are offered or exhibited for sale, transfer, or exchange; or
(b) not less than three gun show vendors exhibit, sell, offer for sale, transfer, or exchange firearms".

"Gun show vendor" means any person who exhibits, sells, offers for sale, transfers, or exchanges, any firearm at a gun show, regardless of whether the person arranges with a gun show promoter for a fixed location from which to exhibit, sell, offer for sale, transfer, or exchange any firearm".

So, looks like if there was a gun show scheduled for a certain Winter weekend and due to very heavy snows, all of the vendors but two NON-FFL vendors had to cancel their appearance because they were totally snowed in. The promoter of the event couldn't get a refund from the facility so decided to go ahead with the event anyhow.The two NON-FFL vendors who did show up only had a total of fifteen or twenty guns to sell - sounds like a gun show did NOT materialize so the background checks would NOT be necessary as they were merely trying to get rid of their collections. Sound right?? Yeah, mighty slim chance of this really happening but it could.

[rhineoshott]

I think you implied this, but it also sounds like buyers are not included as part of the three "vendors".

Now is it saying: A+B is required, or either A or B? Because then the two vendors in your scenario would not have to have a combined number of guns less than 25. But if that is not the case, what about one guy who wants to sell a collection of 30 guns (like a garage sale)? Surely that's not a gun show.

Hmm, interesting stuff!

[sniper7]

I don't know the legal side but either way i would err on the side of caution. Don't wanna get f'd by the atf

[BlasterBob]

I think you implied this, but it also sounds like buyers are not included as part of the three "vendors".

Now is it saying: A+B is required, or either A or B?

It is saying a OR b.........not a AND b. The way I read it anyhow. Yeah, stay on the side of extreme caution as the LE troops and States Attorney people can interpret it any way that they feel it NEEDS to be.
I don't believe the ATFE should anything to do with this type case as it is a CO law we are referring to.
I also don't believe the three buyers should be considered VENDORS unless they were there to peddle one or some of their firearms.. Remember that a Vendor is anyone who EXHIBITS, sells, offers for sale......With that in mind, probably best to just leave their CCW firearm in their vehicle while in the show because that unloaded firearm wouldn't do them much good unless used as a club.

You can easily tell that I am retired since I apparently have all day to sit around and dream up this kind of shit.

[Irving]

The ATF would find a way to bust normal Joe Schmoe in any and all of those situations, legal or not. Best not to risk it.

[TFOGGER]

The ATF would find a way to bust normal Joe Schmoe in any and all situations, legal or not.

Fixed. The ATF will find a way to bust you, whether or not you've actually done anything illegal, if they really want to.

[Mtn.man]

I just go for the rocket launchers and the fully automatic weapons I can get becuase of the loop hole.

[theGinsue]

I just go for the rocket launchers and the fully automatic weapons I can get becuase of the loop hole.

So YOU'RE the one buying these at the gun shows around the country. When are you going to be giving them to the drug cartels in Mexico, I might be up for a road trip. /sarcasm