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    Default Something that bugs me...

    I look around on firearms ads both here and at Colorado gun market, and something that I see a lot of is: bring a Colorado ID, or the seller won't sell. What's the deal with this? I've got a Colorado DL, and have lived here for four years or so, but it bothers me. As a private seller, you are not required to have proof of a person's state of residence. That is only required by an FFL. It is perfectly legal for me to go buy a handgun in Wyoming from a private seller. It is perfectly legal for a Wyomingite to come to Colorado and buy a handgun from a private seller.
    What's the deal?

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    "It is perfectly legal for me to go buy a handgun in Wyoming from a private seller. It is perfectly legal for a Wyomingite to come to Colorado and buy a handgun from a private seller."

    This is incorrect.
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    Yeah, you can't buy handguns in other states from private sellers, or gun dealers for that matter, and bring them home across state lines. Federal law. Rifles and shotguns, yes. Handguns, no.

    And believe it or not, there's folks that would buy guns and re-sell them to criminal types or across the border. Selling good-ol'-boy to good-ol'-boy is fine, but it never hurts to make an attempt to verify the other party really is a good-ol'-boy from the same state.

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    Default 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44

    § 922 Unlawful acts.
    (a) It shall be unlawful—...
    (5) for any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer,
    licensed dealer, or licensed collector) to transfer, sell, trade, give, transport, or deliver any firearm to any person (other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector) who the transferor knows or has reasonable cause to believe does not reside in (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, does not maintain a place of business in) the State in which the transferor resides; except that this paragraph shall not apply to (A) the transfer, transportation, or delivery of a firearm made to carry out a bequest of a firearm to, or an acquisition by intestate succession of a firearm by, a person who is permitted to acquire or possess a firearm under the laws of the State of his residence, and (B) the loan or rental of a firearm to any person for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes;...

    The long gun exception for interstate sales isn't included for sales between individuals the way I read it.

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    I stand corrected. I've been stupid for a few years now. I've not bought anything out of state or sold out of state, but I would have probably.

    Thanks!

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    The post that SAnd made pretty well covers this issue.

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    I ask for a DL if I don't know you or if much like you, you have an extremely low post count. I as the seller have an obligation to have a reasonable understanding that you are legal to own a firearm and or are old enough to purchase what ever I'm selling.

    So out of the folks I've met here, I've only ever asked 2 I think for their ID. Wasn't anything bad, just didn't meet my self imposed criteria for a reasonable sale.

    Don't like my simple requirement, that makes me wonder.. I'm not asking to write down your info or have a bill of sale, then again if you're less than willing to simply show me your ID so I can see a DOB and residency, then I won't sell to you.

    Not sure I understand why showing your ID bugs you... again, if you don't like the terms of the sale and aren't able to negotiate them to a mutual liking, then don't buy the item.

    Pretty simple yeah? ... crazy how that works!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claemore View Post
    I look around on firearms ads both here and at Colorado gun market, and something that I see a lot of is: bring a Colorado ID, or the seller won't sell.
    What's the deal?
    2 sites asking for an ID should have been your first hint that maybe that's just the way it is ????
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    I also won't cultivate that "paperwork" in a private sale is the norm. I'm not a criminal, nor will I register with another private citizen to purchase a firearm from them.

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    I firmly believe the seller has an obligation to at least make an attempt to be certain that the buyer is of legal age and is a resident of the same State as the seller. That's just playing it safe and if you gain the drivers license number and record it, you can at least show that you have checked the buyers age and address. We as individuals (Non-FFL) have no practical/quick means of checking the background of the potential buyer so I guess we can only ask him/her if they have any criminal record or anything to prevent the transfer....Of course they'll say that they are A-OK. Just my worthless opinion though....

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