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    I agree that I wouldn't use it hunting, I think both the 6.8spc2 and the 6.5 Grendel are better suited there if you want to hunt with an AR.

    However a small whitetail out to 200-250 yards or so would be an ethical shot with 300blk IMHO. Same with pronghorn or hogs. Problem with pronghorn, they are oftena further shot than that.

    An elk within 100 yds would be OK too.

    But like I said, I would want more gun for any of those species.
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    Thanks guys. After studying on the ballistics and velocities, I had just about come to the same conclusion.

    The white tail we have here in S. TX. run about 150 for a good buck, some a little larger and more even smaller.

    Guess I will stick with my 7mm-08.


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    A few bolt action rifle makers like Savage had announced they would be chambering the 300 Blackout in new rifles. They have since released statement that they will now NOT be selling rifles in the 300 Blackout.

    Although as designed as the 300 Whisper is ok as a defensive short-intermediate range cartridge with heavy sub-sonic bullets. They showed that the supersonic lighter bullets and heavy sub-sonic were less than ideal as a hunting cartridge.
    I say lets all remove the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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    a 300aac with a 125gr at 2300fps is 600 to 700 fps SLOWER than a 270win with a 130gr. most people consider a 270 minimum for an elk. that puts the 300aac as marginal at best at ranges UNDER 100 yards.
    also, most 125gr .308 bullets are NOT made for big game, but rather varmints. i dont know, maybe the lack of velocity and light construction could work, or maybe not.
    bottom line is that a 300aac is NOT a big game round unless you are shooting at iron sighted handgun ranges.

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    I have a PSA upper on the way. They are back in stock as of this post. http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.../category/312/

    Been looking at ammo options (reloading) and in looking around for Supersonic use many options are out there. I have some 110 V-Max bullets on the way but they are very pricey. I have about 400 125G spitzers that I bought as AK bullets but are .308. Also have .310 bullets and many have reported good results using them as is and not resizing them.

    In poking around I also have 1000 of the M-160 108Gr frangibles that I bought for nothing. So some testing is in order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrymrc View Post
    I have a PSA upper on the way. They are back in stock as of this post. http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.../category/312/

    Been looking at ammo options (reloading) and in looking around for Supersonic use many options are out there. I have some 110 V-Max bullets on the way but they are very pricey. I have about 400 125G spitzers that I bought as AK bullets but are .308. Also have .310 bullets and many have reported good results using them as is and not resizing them.

    In poking around I also have 1000 of the M-160 108Gr frangibles that I bought for nothing. So some testing is in order.
    There was a guy on 300blktalk.com that was adamant that he and a lot of other reloaders there shot the 123 grain 7.62x39 surplus bullets. I thought that they were .310, and he said that is not a problem. You can get them for super cheap sometimes, so it looked like a good idea to me. I am thinking about it when I get my subsonic heavy and my hunting rounds built and finished. Then I will start working up a volume plinking round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20X11 View Post
    Hunting? Depends...Look at the Atlanta Arms 125gr Nosler ballistic tip load at about 2300 ft/sec. ..... I plan to hunt deer with mine. ....
    Think .30-.30 rifle...would you take it on your hunt?...if so 300 AAC blackout is a good choice.
    Actually making them legal to hunt with in Colorado is very difficult. Making the 1000ft/lbs of energy at 100 yards is near impossible. (required to hunt in Colorado) I am not aware of any factory ammo that will make it legal to hunt with in Colorado .
    Your own load listed above is NOT legal. Just over 1000ft/lbs at 50 yards, but shy of energy at 100 yards.
    (page 12, top of the Colorado Hunting regs)



    In fact I have looked at the Whisper, aka 300/221 aka ACC Blackout many times and it always falls short.
    If you want an intermediate range AR the cheapest way to go to make it hunting legal is 7.62x39 or 6x45 (still hard to do in the 6x45 and 7.62x39). Next would be a 6.8SPC or 6.5 Grendel.
    I say lets all remove the warning labels and let nature take its course.

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    6.5 Grendel would be a good choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Osprey View Post
    Actually making them legal to hunt with in Colorado is very difficult. Making the 1000ft/lbs of energy at 100 yards is near impossible. (required to hunt in Colorado) I am not aware of any factory ammo that will make it legal to hunt with in Colorado .
    Your own load listed above is NOT legal. Just over 1000ft/lbs at 50 yards, but shy of energy at 100 yards.
    (page 12, top of the Colorado Hunting regs)



    In fact I have looked at the Whisper, aka 300/221 aka ACC Blackout many times and it always falls short.
    If you want an intermediate range AR the cheapest way to go to make it hunting legal is 7.62x39 or 6x45 (still hard to do in the 6x45 and 7.62x39). Next would be a 6.8SPC or 6.5 Grendel.
    A. OP location shows Texas
    B. My hunt will be in Nebraska

    Thanks for the great info though.

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    can you buy factory 6.5 grendel ammo? If you had to choose between 6.8spc or 6.5 grendel for hunting which cartrige would you use?

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