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    If it only cost $75 to put out a fire.

    A used fire truck cost $30,000 to $100,000

    You need to find 10 guys to volunteer to learn how to put out fire's.

    You need to buy them PPE Personel protective equipment $2000 each.

    The VFD need to purchase insurance $3000

    Build a building $40000

    I could go on and on with cost of a volunteer fire department

    Being a volunteer fire fighter, one saturday a month you do training 8 hours training, Dont drink no beer when you get off work couse you might need to go put out a fire, When a fire tone goes off at 2am you go to the call, if your out till 5am you dont sleep you go to your real paid job work 8 hours cause my boss dont pay me to fight fires. If a fire happen when Im working and I go I dont get my pay.

    So it dont cost $75 to put out a fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troublco View Post
    If we're going to let the house burn if one guy didn't pay, we need to start denying police and medical response if someone doesn't pay taxes.


    IT IS NOT A TAX!
    IT IS A PRIVATE SERVICE.

    IT IS AN OPTION
    HE CHOSE TO OPT OUT.

    I REPEAT, IT IS NOT A TAX.
    STOP COMPARING AN APPLE TO AN ORANGE.

    It's SORT of like Cable TV, you pay, you get it, you don't pay, they stop service.
    Newspaper, stop paying, they stop delivering.
    Fire protection districts and Volunteer departments are very different from Newspapers and cable TV Companies, I know, but only in the services provided. HOWEVER, they are all SUBSCRIPTION based Services.
    Wrap your heads around the fact someone didn't want to pay for shit and they didn't get it.


    As far as it being a perfect world and me wanting it that way?
    Yes, yes I Do want a perfect world. Do I Expect it? Nope.
    I do know that if you let one guy slide, everyone wants to slide, then everyone just stops paying and then we wind up with the government taking care of everything for us. He should have been a big boy and paid for the service that they didn't want the government to provide. Kinda like Obama-care in a way.

    Sorry, but I Do Not need that sort of Babysitting.




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    How did they know that there wasn't a life in imminent danger if they didn't even show up until other people called in to have their homes protected?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    IT IS AN OPTION
    HE CHOSE TO OPT OUT.
    But would he have had to pay taxes on the option had he opted in?!? Oh snap!!

    Just kiddin' man. Another analogy could be purchasing a warranty on any sort of electronics when you buy them. You do, something happens, you get it replaced. You don't, something happens, you're screwed. All of the sudden hindsight is 20/20 and you look to place blame but ultimately it's your fault for not getting the warranty. Kind of a lame analogy but it's what I thought of when I was reading this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    IT IS NOT A TAX!
    IT IS A PRIVATE SERVICE.

    IT IS AN OPTION
    HE CHOSE TO OPT OUT.

    I REPEAT, IT IS NOT A TAX.
    STOP COMPARING AN APPLE TO AN ORANGE.

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    so basically this reinforces the fact that, back east sucks. most Coloradoans would not watch someones house burn down, no matter the facts.


    for Byte, i am not sticking up for the guy who didnt pay. i am not sticking up for the fireman who watched it burn.

    but, that not how we roll. here in the West.
    Last edited by HBARleatherneck; 10-10-2010 at 12:14.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HBARleatherneck View Post
    so basically this reinforces the fact that, back east sucks. most Coloradoans would not watch someones house burn down, no matter the facts.
    Well, at least someone gets what I'm saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SA Friday View Post
    Well, at least someone gets what I'm saying.
    true that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byte Stryke View Post
    Imminent danger to life.
    By Law ANYONE must make an attempt at that point. This is where you folks are missing the point.
    Do the animals inside count?

    If not them why do fds that I pay for save a dogs life in the middle of a lake or a kitten in a tree. I am being a bit fececious here of course.

    I agree with what you have said I know he should have paid the fees and I understand the consequences of the fire department losing money to people who don't subscribe because this guy got a free ride.

    My issue is they stood and watched it burn with the animals inside. Those can never be replaced just as a human life can't be either. I know that a human and dog aren't the same but they truly are mans best friend and I love my dogs. That is why I have a issue with this. Had it just been a house then oh well I hope he had insurance.
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    Default I'd be tempted...

    If it was my neighbors house I'd be tempted to wrap my left arm around the Fire Chiefs' neck and with my right hand put a gun to his head...then I would be giving the orders!(When in doubt, use force)
    And yes I have done crazier things than that...

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