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    Default Getting pulled over while carrying in vehicle is an extension of home?

    Got pulled over today for tint, I can say that it was (allegedly) illegal and I was aware of it (own my own tint shop, could be a worse thing). The cop loved to throw out all the laws like he memorized the book, d-bag (I have no problems with cops, both parents were cops, but he was a d-bag about it). I was concealing and he made it clear that I had to provide a CCW. Correct me if I am wrong but I read that your vehicle is an extension of your home and you can conceal legally and do not have to inform an officer of the weapon (as you would in your home). I would have loved to have informed him of the "state Statute" as it reads. He better never do anything wrong while operating on my airport, his supervisor will be getting a phone call and he will get no leniency from me, it will be by the book and then some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriggerHappy View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong but I read that your vehicle is an extension of your home and you can conceal legally and do not have to inform an officer of the weapon (as you would in your home).
    You are correct or so as I have been told by the LEO who was at my CCW class. The words I was told by him which I live by as for dealing with any LEO when being pulled over "volunteer nothing comply with everything!"

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    Colorado Revised Statutes 18-12-105







    18-12-105. Unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon - unlawful possession of weapons.









    (1) A person commits a class 2 misdemeanor if such person knowingly and unlawfully:








    (a) Carries a knife concealed on or about his or her person; or








    (b) Carries a firearm concealed on or about his or her person; or








    (c) Without legal authority, carries, brings, or has in such person's possession a firearm or any explosive, incendiary, or other dangerous device on the property of or within any building in which the chambers, galleries, or offices of the general assembly, or either house thereof, are located, or in which a legislative hearing or meeting is being or is to be conducted, or in which the official office of any member, officer, or employee of the general assembly is located.








    (d) (Deleted by amendment, L. 93, p. 964, § 1, effective July 1, 1993.)








    (2) It shall not be an offense if the defendant was:








    (a) A person in his or her own dwelling or place of business or on property owned or under his or her control at the time of the act of carrying; or








    (b) A person in a private automobile or other private means of conveyance who carries a weapon for lawful protection of such person's or another's person or property while traveling; or








    (c) A person who, at the time of carrying a concealed weapon, held a valid written permit to carry a concealed weapon issued pursuant to section 18-12-105.1, as it existed prior to its repeal, or, if the weapon involved was a handgun, held a valid permit to carry a concealed handgun or a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to part 2 of this article; except that it shall be an offense under this section if the person was carrying a concealed handgun in violation of the provisions of section 18-12-214; or






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    CRS 18-12-201







    18-12-201. Legislative declaration.









    (1) The general assembly finds that:








    (a) There exists a widespread inconsistency among jurisdictions within the state with regard to the issuance of permits to carry concealed handguns and identification of areas of the state where it is lawful to carry concealed handguns;








    (b) This inconsistency among jurisdictions creates public uncertainty regarding the areas of the state in which it is lawful to carry concealed handguns;








    (c) Inconsistency results in the arbitrary and capricious denial of permits to carry concealed handguns based on the jurisdiction of residence rather than the qualifications for obtaining a permit;








    (d) The criteria and procedures for the lawful carrying of concealed handguns historically has been regulated by state statute and should be consistent throughout the state to ensure the consistent implementation of state law; and








    (e) It is necessary that the state occupy the field of regulation of the bearing of concealed handguns since the issuance of a concealed handgun permit is based on a person's constitutional right of self-protection and there is a prevailing state interest in ensuring that no citizen is arbitrarily denied a concealed handgun permit and in ensuring that the laws controlling the use of the permit are consistent throughout the state.








    (2) Based on the findings specified in subsection (1) of this section, the general assembly hereby concludes that:








    (a) The permitting and carrying of concealed handguns is a matter of statewide concern; and








    (b) It is necessary to provide statewide uniform standards for issuing permits to carry concealed handguns for self-defense.








    (3) In accordance with the findings and conclusions specified in subsections (1) and (2) of this section, the general assembly hereby instructs each sheriff to implement and administer the provisions of this part 2. The general assembly does not delegate to the sheriffs the authority to regulate or restrict the issuance of permits provided for in this part 2 beyond the provisions of this part 2. An action or rule that encumbers the permit process by placing burdens on the applicant beyond those sworn statements and specified documents detailed in this part 2 or that creates restrictions beyond those specified in this part 2 is in conflict with the intent of this part 2 and is prohibited.





    and CRS 18-12-204







    18-12-204. Permit contents - validity - carrying requirements.









    (1) (a) Each permit shall bear a color photograph of the permittee and shall display the signature of the sheriff who issues the permit. In addition, the sheriffs of this state shall ensure that all permits issued pursuant to this part 2 contain the same items of information and are the same size and the same color.








    (b) A permit is valid for a period of five years after the date of issuance and may be renewed as provided in section 18-12-211. A permit issued pursuant to this part 2, including a temporary emergency permit issued pursuant to section 18-12-209, is effective in all areas of the state, except as otherwise provided in section 18-12-214.








    (2) (a) A permittee, in compliance with the terms of a permit, may carry a concealed handgun as allowed by state law. The permittee shall carry the permit, together with valid photo identification, at all times during which the permittee is in actual possession of a concealed handgun and shall produce both documents upon demand by a law enforcement officer. Failure to produce a permit upon demand by a law enforcement officer raises a rebuttable presumption that the person does not have a permit. Failure to carry and produce a permit and valid photo identification upon demand as required in this subsection (2) is a class 1 petty offense. A charge of failure to carry and produce a permit and valid photo identification upon demand pursuant to this subsection (2) shall be dismissed by the court if, at or before the permittee's scheduled court appearance, the permittee exhibits to the court a valid permit and valid photo identification, both of which were issued to the permittee prior to the date on which the permittee was charged with failure to carry and produce a permit and valid photo identification upon demand.








    (b) The provisions of paragraph (a) of this subsection (2) apply to temporary emergency permits issued pursuant to section 18-12-209.








    (3) (a) A person who may lawfully possess a handgun may carry a handgun under the following circumstances without obtaining a permit and the handgun shall not be considered concealed:








    (I) The handgun is in the possession of a person who is in a private automobile or in some other private means of conveyance and who carries the handgun for a legal use, including self-defense; or








    (II) The handgun is in the possession of a person who is legally engaged in hunting activities within the state.

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    http://www.rmgo.org/gun-law-faqs/carrying-in-a-vehicle

    specifically:

    18-12-204. Permit contents - validity - carrying requirements.
    (3) (a) A person who may lawfully possess a handgun may carry a handgun under the following circumstances without obtaining a permit and the handgun shall not be considered concealed:
    (I) The handgun is in the possession of a person who is in a private automobile or in some other private means of conveyance and who carries the handgun for a legal use, including self-defense
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    I carry copies of the relevant statutes in my car, is that weird?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    I carry copies of the relevant statutes in my car, is that weird?
    That is smart CYOA!!!

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    i got pulled over a year or o ago for window tint, i had just got the truck a week prior and the cop pulled a razor and made me cut the tint off the two front windows and the windsheild then he wrote me a ticket. ohwell nothing i could have done
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    Quote Originally Posted by ;251972
    i got pulled over a year or o ago for window tint, i had just got the truck a week prior and the cop pulled a razor and made me cut the tint off the two front windows and the windsheild then he wrote me a ticket. ohwell nothing i could have done
    Did the officer use a "tint level device" (don't know the proper techie name) or just his calibrated eyes ? In Kansas, at least in the K.C. metro area, the police use a device they place on both sides of a tinted window to determine if the tinting is illegal before you can be ticketed and forced to remove the tinting. There were too many calibrated eyeball police officers giving out tickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glock21 View Post
    i got pulled over a year or o ago for window tint, i had just got the truck a week prior and the cop pulled a razor and made me cut the tint off the two front windows and the windsheild then he wrote me a ticket. ohwell nothing i could have done

    In that situation, I'd get arrested. That's why I don't have tint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFOGGER View Post
    I carry copies of the relevant statutes in my car, is that weird?
    I am starting to think about printing off a copy. Not weird.

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