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Benelli M2.
You must use loads over 1oz (1 1/8 works best for me, we are talking about combat shotguns-right?) but is super reliable and MG fast.
I can unload an 8 rnds mag in about 2 secs.
No gas rings getting worn, no gas ports getting dirty.
Surefire light forend available, as good as it gets.
Love the Remmy 870. Had a Benelli M2 but could not get any freaking part for it and when I could find them they cost a butt load of money(am kinda off things made it Italy). Kinda Like the new Mossberg 930's but want to see what kind of abuse they can take before getting one
Originally Posted by jkslvr
My thoughts and my opinion:
Action: For myself, pump is preferred. I do have a semi for clays and such but a pump would suit me better in defensive situations. I say pump because they are traditionally better work horses and can take major abuse. However, firearms design is coming along to where semi-autos are just as strong. Pumps seem to me to be faster/easier to clear/diagnose, etc during a malfunction.
Tube capacity: I think most standard "defensive" pump shotguns are 6-9 rounds while most semi-autos are 4-6. However, there are always aftermarket parts to deal with that.
Mods: The big two (Rem 870 and Moss 500) have the most accessories out there including lights/forends/stocks/shell holders/etc. Some of the more fashionable (insert own vocabulary) shotguns are harder to find parts for as mentioned.
Had an 870 police but replaced it with a 590. Also have a Siaga that I love. The wife has a win 1300? auto in 20ga that she likes for clays.
I did not grow up with shotguns. Dad had an old break open that we used for Pheasants. I have done lots of drills with the pumps but still suck at them. That is why my Siaga will never go anywhere.And if you take the Siaga to shoot clays be prepared for the looks.
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My opinion for best tactical/combat shotgun is the one that is being used in combat now....the 870. Less moving parts (because we all know how Murphy likes to show up at inoppertune times), simple operation, dozens of varients, been around 60 years, and reliable. It's the AR/AK of shotguns. Are the better suited models for various applications? Of course. But best all around shoutgun for TACTICAL/COMBAT use...Rem 870 hands down.
Jumped in and got a Benelli M4. Shot it and I just love it. Thanks for all your input. I will see how it works,
870. Put a cheap 21" rifle sighted slug barrel on it. Put a Nordic tube extension on it (file out the retention bump on the inside of the top of the tube, it's easy). Done. Anything else is whatever you want it to have. Parts are cheap. Working on it is easy. It will run. Now go practice with it.
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I like my 590. Parts and accessories are readily available, they're reliable, and they're common.
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