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In my mind, the fact that they can't assess points with these tickets is an admittance that they are illegitimate in the first place...Originally Posted by OneGuy67
Additionally, these red light and photo speed technologies are owned by private companies who contract with the cities for a small fee and shares of the fines. So you have private industry working with city government for...well, you can fill in the rest with your opinion of them. Personally, red light runners and left turners were the worst accidents to go on as a patrol officer. So anything can lowers their rate of occurance is a good thing in my book. As someone here said, why worry about them if you aren't running the light or speeding?
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
I'm not inclined to argue with you over their legitimacy, but would you rather get the $40, no point ticket in the mail or the nice officer giving you the $100, 4-point ticket in person?
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
Is this intersection posted " NO RIGHT TURN ON RED " ?
The photo RED light camera at Bellview Ave. @ Quebec St. is also used to enforce the EB no right turn blank out sign when it is illuminated.
If you were to get assraped would you be thankful that they used lube or would you be pissed about getting assraped in the first place? Your question is a false dichotomy.
?? Sideshow
I don't get it.
ETA: Sideshow, your comments below my quote didn't originally show up, I just saw you quoting me. But, now that I see:
I didn't see a No right on red sign posted and there has never been one there before, but then again, I could have missed it. The next time I drive past that intersection I'll have to make a point of looking to see if they've changed the rules at that location.
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I'll try to get a picture of it in the illuminated and blanked out modes and post them.
Most of the money goes to AZ theres a company there that makes most of the cams. last I heard
below is a cut and paste from the local paper, looks like if you take them to court you stand a pretty god chance of getting it dropped. it also say's if the driver is not the owner than it will be dismissed.
The cameras record vehicles that run red lights. The photos are supposed to capture the vehicle's license plate, which is used to track a violator through Colorado driving records. Suspected violators then receive tickets in the mail.
American Traffic Solutions, a national red-light-camera company, installed the cameras and reviews the photos for violators. The photos are then sent to the police department for final review.
The idea of the program is to make those busy intersections safer, which seems to be the case thus far.
"The feedback we've gotten is positive," said Capt. Linda Grisham of the police department's traffic division.
Judge William Alexander said of the tickets to come through court, 14 were dismissed for identity issues.
"Like where someone else was driving the car rather than the registered owner," he said.
Four tickets have been challenged in court and all were found guilty.
A little more than half of the tickets to come through municipal court have been paid, Alexander said, noting people have 60 days to pay their fines before a second notice is mailed out.
At $75 a ticket, that total comes to more than $44,000.
The majority of that revenue goes to ATS to pay for camera rentals and the ticketing service.
Money left over goes into the city's general fund.
"The point is to make the intersections safer, not (for) revenue," Grisham said
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