TSA pat-downs.

[Byte Stryke]

http://rawjustice.com/2010/11/19/dis...-tsa-pat-down/

That...made me mad.

If YOU touch a child like that your goose is cooked, you are done. life as you know it is over.
You'd have so many officers beating on you screaming "COMPLY!" you'd think you had "Everlast" Stamped on your ass.

But you know with the hardened threat of 3 year old Caucasian Toddlers, The TSA is just keeping us safe.

I understand the need for rules, but there should never be a rule in this country that advocates the striping of our constitutional rights and the uncontentious victimization and molestation of a child by ANYONE.

Thing is, had they waited for the baby to calm down, given her back the teddy bear, explained it to her, Said "OK, Teddy is going to walk through the detector, and he will meet your right here." (2 feet away) The whole situation may well have been averted and there would have been no need for the groping and fondling of a toddler as well as the ensuing PR nightmare.

Logic, Patience and Understanding.
Dad knows.

[hollohas]

Did this get posted yet?

HR 6416 - American Traveler Dignity Act

I'll be contacting my reps, not that it ever matters...Perlmutter is a major tool and the email replies from his office in the past have always just told me I'm wrong.

[henpecked]

"Hey Tom, can you come over here for a minute please? I found this white unlit fuse inside this ladies panties. What should I do?"


"You idiot, that is a tampon string".

[Ranger]

Wow, there is some serious ranting in this thread! I'm all for profiling, I'm all against political correctness and the BS that comes with it. You know what, if they feel the need to search me and accidentally touch my "junk", so be it, because if some other asshat has something hiding near HIS boy bits then I'm damn glad it's been searched.

Air travel is nothing more than an bus that flies and there is nothing special about it, it's a choice like taking the train or any other form of transportation, so these idiots who complain can walk for all I care. Since this "bus" is also a potential missile, the extra steps by TSA don't piss me off one bit unless I miss my flight - but if I get there two hours ahead of time as recommended then I never have a problem, and I travel quite a bit.

I will, however, admit that there are plenty of things that need to be done to make this process a bit more tasteful - that thing with searching prosthetic limbs of frightened children, that needs to be done WITH the parents and I see no reason why not.

Let's face it, TSA are basically a bunch of union mall security guards - it's not like we are dealing with the military here, so we have to remember that for $12 an hour you get stupid crap that pisses people off.

And in my book, if you resemble in any way a terrorist, strip search! I don't give a rats ass about profiling, if you have your African ceremonial garb on then sorry bud you have to have it checked. And if you look like a white meth head, then those false teeth have to come out too.

[Irving]

Ranger, would you change your appearance when going to a different country just so you didn't appear to be an American?

[Ranger]

If I had nefarious designs in that country, sure, but I'm a law abiding citizen with nothing to hide. I assume you ask this because of the African Ceremonial Garb statement, and yes I understand that whoever is wanting to take a plane down will likely not LOOK the role, I was simply making a point.

[Irving]

So you're so proud to be an American, that you'd still dress and look like one in other countries, if it meant mandatory strip searching at every airport you go through? You wouldn't have any complaints about that?

[ERNO]

Profiling may work in Israel, but it will be impossible to work in such places as La Guardia airport in New York.

[DOC]

The 9/11 hijackers weren't dressed in their ceremonial death garbs when they boarded the plane. They wore button down shirts, kakis and they shaved off the man pleasing beards too. Hell I bet they showered sometime that week too. All in an effort to slip past screeners and carry out the plot to kill Americans. It worked. Profiling won't work forever the people pulling the strings of these sacrificial lackys will think of a way around it. And they can wait a long time too.

[th3w01f]

The 9/11 hijackers weren't dressed in their ceremonial death garbs when they boarded the plane. They wore button down shirts, kakis and they shaved off the man pleasing beards too. Hell I bet they showered sometime that week too. All in an effort to slip past screeners and carry out the plot to kill Americans. It worked. Profiling won't work forever the people pulling the strings of these sacrificial lackys will think of a way around it. And they can wait a long time too.

You’re correct that profiling won’t work in every case but it can definitely cut down on the number of people needing to be screened.

(This part is not in response to Doc and just a general comment) There are some people who are obviously not a threat and there are people who have to fly for a living so saying “don’t fly if you don’t like it really isn’t an option” What if you had to get a pat down and breathalyzer test every time you had to drive to work? Driving isn’t a right either.

I’ve been through these screenings 9 times in the last two weeks and it’s just getting worse.