TSA pat-downs.

[TFOGGER]

What Ron Paul has to say about this subject:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibr...ppid=599164944

[2ndChildhood]

Good for Ron Paul!

What Ron Paul has to say about this subject:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibr...ppid=599164944

[Epyon]

To those who feel it might bring most sheep comfort to single out anyone that "looks" Muslim or has a Muslim sounding name I just have to ask... does McVeigh, or Kaczynski sound like a Muslim name? Do either of those idiots "look" like they're Muslim? Or what if a white American decides to pull some terrorist attack, throw a religion under the bus, and then commit suicide after pulling off said attack?

EDIT: Just saw the Ron Paul video, I don't usually like either political party but I do like the way this guy thinks. Too bad more people in his party aren't as practical as he is.

[Irving]

We've already been over the point that public profiling isn't the answer. Well, at least that was the side that I was on. You hadn't joined up yet Epyon.

[ghettodub]

Ooh, i bet this thread will get way more fun now!

All i know is that Pedobear is super excited to get a job with TSA

[bellavite1]

What is the big deal?
If somebody wants to take a peak at my fat ass, knock yourself out!

[Bailey Guns]

To those who feel it might bring most sheep comfort to single out anyone that "looks" Muslim or has a Muslim sounding name I just have to ask... does McVeigh, or Kaczynski sound like a Muslim name? Do either of those idiots "look" like they're Muslim? Or what if a white American decides to pull some terrorist attack, throw a religion under the bus, and then commit suicide after pulling off said attack?

EDIT: Just saw the Ron Paul video, I don't usually like either political party but I do like the way this guy thinks. Too bad more people in his party aren't as practical as he is.

I wasn't aware either of those guys...or any other non-Muslims for that matter...flew any airplanes into buildings (except the white guy down in TX who flew HIS OWN plane, occupied by no one but him, into the IRS building...I'm not sure that incident really equates to terrorism, though). Do white, non-Muslims commit crimes in this country? Yes. Is that who we're looking at to potentially bring down airplanes? Unless you're one of the PC geniuses who works for the US government the answer is "No".

How, exactly, does someone sending a bomb through the mail or detonating an explosives laden truck in front of a building have anything to do with government-sanctioned invasion of privacy at airports?

Now, if the government wants to start arbitrarily searching my mail or my vehicle because some white nut-job blows someone up, we'll talk.

In my opinion, regarding the topic of airport security, if you don't see how profiling - or at a minimum devoting an inordinate amount of attention to - Muslims traveling by air over virtually 100% of American citizens then you're just naive and don't really understand the problem. And it's not a matter of bringing "comfort" to people. It's a matter of being smart enough to realize that basically all terror attacks against aircraft in this day and age are perpetrated by Muslims. It's a matter of using tactics that work.

How many terror attacks have TSA procedures stopped again?

Thanks for the input but I'd prefer to put my safety into the hands of just about anyone over the TSA.

[Elhuero]

To those who feel it might bring most sheep comfort to single out anyone that "looks" Muslim or has a Muslim sounding name I just have to ask... does McVeigh, or Kaczynski sound like a Muslim name? Do either of those idiots "look" like they're Muslim? Or what if a white American decides to pull some terrorist attack, throw a religion under the bus, and then commit suicide after pulling off said attack?

lol the all inclusive "what if"

so easily molded to whatever cockamamie fantasy one chooses to concoct.

how about a shot of some facts:

neither of those guys hijacked planes and crashed them into buildings, neither did they do their crimes in the name of their god.

airports should have security. but the way our idiot government is going about it is like administering an enema to cure a toothache.

until we recognize the problem (muslim extremist terrorists) and act appropriately to stop the threat (no more political correctness, swift harsh punishment for the ones we catch) it will just get worse and worse.

as someone has pointed out, our government and the TSA are handing terrorists victory on a silver platter.

the TSA sucks. I traveled a lot for a few years and I can tell you first hand that nothing they do makes any difference. It's a big bloody waste of money. They are worse then cops. Simply by saying something to them that they don't like you can be arrested and charged with a felony.

I don't remember the guy's name, and now I can't find it... but there's a quote from a former director of security for El Al that said "America doesn't have a system of airport security, it has a system to annoy people"

[BigBear]

is like administering an enema to cure a toothache.

So that's why it's not working....

[hollohas]

I fly every single week for work. Sure I have a choice not to fly...that same choice will cost me my job.

I couldn't care less if some a-hole behind a computer screen sees some black-and-white holloas junk. I couldn't care less if someone gives me a pat down...if they have good reason. That's the key to me. This is about our constitution. And since when is it ok to give unwarranted virtual strip searches of people without cause? What is this nation coming to? This is a major slippery slope and I believe it is in DIRECT violation of our great constitution and can't believe people are more upset about some radiation or someone seeing their boobies.

You do not give up your rights by buying a plane ticket. It is the Federal Government requiring and performing the body scans and pat downs...not a private company that requires it in order to use their services. Our own government continues to blatantly violate our constitutional rights.

It's not hard to imagine these same "precautions" can translate into searching our houses without warrants. Or that some terrorist will put a bomb up his ass and then they'll require full cavity searches to fly...'as a precaution people, why are you getting so upset? We're doing this to protect you.'

This is how it happens. We give up some of our hard fought freedoms so Uncle Sam can give us protection. A little more here and a little more there and we're all going to stand around and look at each other and ask "where'd it go."

Well, we gave it up so the government could protect us, don't you remember?

If you believe in your country, your constitution and what it means, this should outrage you even if you don't fly.