Getting jumped or mugged

[Byte Stryke]

This brings up another question: Assuming you are outnumbered, and in "reasonable fear of serious bodily injury or death", and you are forced to actually shoot someone to remove the threat, post shooting, do you:

A) Call 911, tell them there's been a shooting, keep them on the line until cops/EMS arrive, administer first aid, in an attempt to save a life (and does this look better in the eyes of a jury?)?

or

B) Call 911, blah blah blah, and move away from the "threat" in keeping with the "fear for my life" scenario(no first aid, as it seems to show remorse)?

I know what my answer is, just curious about the rest of you.

I am going to assume, probably pretty safely, that if you drop one and they keep coming, Drop another and they will either arm or run.

As soon as the person is down, the law typically considers the threat neutralized.(there's always circumstances)

What to say when you get on with 911 and this should be happening before the weapon even starts to cool.
(this should also be covered in your classes)

1) I Was being/about to be attacked by (Persons) and I thought I Was going to die and I Shot (persons) defending myself.

2) I WAS AM TERRIFIED! I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO AFRAID IN MY LIFE!

3) PLEASE, Send an ambulance quickly He is/they are Hurt.

If you giggle on the phone with 911, trust me, it will be used against you.
You are going to have to go through Criminal investigation and a Civil battle. That recording will be used in Both.
You are Scared, you are sincere, you are concerned for the life and well being of your fellow man.

You are also calling your attorney as soon as 911 is done with you.

Regardless of how in the right you are, keep your trap shut.
Tell the Officer that due to potential civil actions resulting, you would like to wait before answering any questions until you can speak to your attorney or Request an attorney.

I Would also recommend you run this same question past your legal representative and not just take my word for it.

[Hoopty]

My two cents would be put distance between you and the aggressor or aggressors. And do your absolute best to diffuse the situation. Toss them a wallet, or tuck tail and run. Personally I have no issue with running away.

If they were to keep it up and become very violent, and not keep the distance I have tried to maintain the game has changed. Menacing a weapon at that point would not be a concern to me, my life would be, 3-4 on one, potentially under the influence is not a safe environment. I would most likely draw or announce I was armed and assess the situation.

Have a cell, call 911. Do your best to not draw and use your weapon. Unless it is life or death.

Just my 2 cents not any sort of legal advice haha.

I would NOT announce I was armed, especially if there are multiple assailants. If they are traveling in packs and mugging people, chances are good that at least one of them is armed too. Last thing you want to do is tell them before they find out the hard way, giving them precious time to "jump start" you to a gun. I'm guessing they will not hesitate to use their gun(s) in this situation! It would be tough to keep your eyes on all of them at the same time, so if it comes down to it, pull it out and use it if necessary! Don't give them a warning until it is pointed at them IMO, and keep trying to increase distance when this is done.

Otherwise great suggestions!

[Colorado Luckydog]

If I'm in fear for my life or serious injury, I'm going to use my weapon. If I really think they are unarmed, they would get a chance to back off. However, I wouldn't take a beating from multiple unarmed thugs and hope they choose not to kill me. If I have reason to belive they are armed, they will get all I got as fast as I can give it.

If I feel my life is in danger, all this Mickey Mouse shit about what would happen in court will not be of any concern to me at all. If I have my family with me, it will be of even less concern. In a high pressure situation where you could be killed, who gives a rats ass about what might happen in court.

I think you guys watch too much TV.

[Irving]

I wouldn't say anything on the 911 call except that I need an ambulance.

[Byte Stryke]

If I'm in fear for my life or serious injury, I'm going to use my weapon. If I really think they are unarmed, they would get a chance to back off. However, I wouldn't take a beating from multiple unarmed thugs and hope they choose not to kill me. If I have reason to belive they are armed, they will get all I got as fast as I can give it.

If I feel my life is in danger, all this Mickey Mouse shit about what would happen in court will not be of any concern to me at all. If I have my family with me, it will be of even less concern. In a high pressure situation where you could be killed, who gives a rats ass about what might happen in court.

I think you guys watch too much TV.

I Do not question the actions.
I am just offering advice for the after-action which is just as important

Even you just "Show it", they back down and a shot is never fired... you need to be on the phone with 911.

Otherwise they hear this first:

"Deys dis crazy muthafuka wiff a gun!"


First dirt wins.

[Geology Rocks]

I would....Yell out to them at the top of my lungs with my support hand outstretched. "I do not want a problem!!! Someone please call 911 and them to keep their distance." Hopefully someone near by will say they heard me yelling at the top of the lungs to stay back and call 911. If they dont listen I turn and burn...if they give chase and catch me I have reason to believe I am in danger and therefore I will defend myself.

joe

[Irving]

My fiance has a top running speed of about 8 mph. I know, I've checked. Running is not an option.

[Geology Rocks]

My fiance has a top running speed of about 8 mph. I know, I've checked. Running is not an option.

i would still try and exercise every way out option. Yes we can stand our ground and not retreat. In a car? drive away.

joe

[Elhuero]

ok, here's my take...

defend yourself first.

when it's over, move away from the dead/injured. don't touch them, talk to them or try to help them.

call 911.

"There has been a shooting at [location], there are [number of assailants] wounded. Please send EMS and police to [location again] immediately. The person on scene [give your description] is a good guy DO NOT SHOOT HIM"

hang up. the operator will try to keep you on the line and ask you questions to get more detail. don't let them.

holster your firearm and wait for the police.

when they arrive don't move or shout and keep your hands visible. tell the police that you are armed and tell them without pointing or reaching where your firearm is located. Say you were in fear for your life and defended yourself, and that you don't feel well and would like to go to the hospital. then DON'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE.

as soon as you can call an attorney and also write down every detail of the situation while it's fresh in your mind.

with this plan you defend yourself, call for help without admitting you shot anyone, maintain control of your firearm until police disarm you, and also protect yourself from prosecution and counter suit.

that's my general plan, I'm open to critique and suggestion.

[Adawg38]

Elhuero hit it right on the money IMO and from what I was taught. As before the shooting if you have any way outs...take them. Defend youself in a last resort option and if you ever feel your life is in danger or fear of severe bodily harm you have every right to defend yourself. If they want just your money or car give it to them those things can always be replaced even if you may lose your pride. If that's not enough and they keep coming at you and you can't get away, SHOOT EM! 3 guys can still kill you whether or not they have weapons, they can tap dance on your head and kill you pretty easily or cause you severe bodily harm. You will always have the BS to deal with after the fact it's just unavoidable.