*Breaking News* North Korea fires artillery on S. Korean island!

[Hoosier]

it's a third world shit hole that wasn't worth the 15 months I spent there

How long ago was it you were there?

H.

[Hoosier]

Honestly, the South Korean military is pretty impressive, and continues to become more advanced technologically as systems like the K2 Black Panther and K9 howitzer come online. Meanwhile, North Korea is still making copies of Chinese copies of T-55s and calling them the best tank ever. I'm not sure our presence is necessary for South Korea's defense anymore, although South Korea does need our help as far as missile and air defense goes.

We're there in part of historic reasons, and in part because the DPRK claims to have a million man army, and 3-5m more in "reserve." In truth of course they have 6 or 8 million uniforms, and a fraction of that is a proper armed, fueled, and fed military force. Somewhere in the last decade their threat shifted from being due to their actual military and more to do with their nuclear capability, and the critical fact that Seoul is a city of ~25million people, in traditional artillery range of the DMZ.

While it might be a great place to "bring democracy", I'm not really willing to spend more American lives and treasure doing it. We could always fix Burma or Somalia for less money and risk, but you don't see us doing that, either. We didn't get sold on going to Iraq to bring democracy, we got sold that they were a clear and present danger.

H.

[Elhuero]

I think it's a good thing that Truman prevented MacArthur from nuking the chinese.

but leaving the situation unresolved was a serious mistake.

however, lil kim is dying for a fight. he keeps trying to pick one and giving him what he wants is just stupid.

maybe the solution is to go to the chinese and tell them if they don't help us fix this mess we'll cut off all imports. a world war would help fix our economy. hehe

[sniper7]

[sniper7]

maybe the solution is to go to the chinese and tell them if they don't help us fix this mess we'll cut off all imports. a world war would help fix our economy. hehe

very true, it helped the last time

[rockhound]

Just wait til the psychos in N Korea get their nukes working.

The constant belligerence by the north is another example of US appeasement policy (over the last 40 years) gone bad.

+1

the US appears weak, BOs apologetic stance of american policy has emboldened our enemies. The only thing that has kept NK in check since the last war was our military presence and strong foreign policy.

Our PC attitude toward warfare since WW2 has cost thousands of US lives and has made our military look ineffective. Let our soldiers fight as they used to and we could once again be a military and political force. keep apologizing and requiring soldiers to fill out reports as to why the felt it necessary to fire their weapons and we will be defending our borders against more invaders than just illegal mexicans.

[Not_A_Llama]

I feel more confident every day that the country to roll on North Korea will be China.

We don't have the willpower, South Korea won't risk the wholesale destruction of their capital, and China's interests in long term stability and trade practically compel them to move. Rush in, disassemble the ruling hierarchy, install a puppet government to keep everything running, and the American/South Korean military off their doorstep. They'll wait as long as they can, trying to help the North Koreans get everything together, before everything goes down.

China will bide its time until the right moment, then everything unravels practically overnight.

[ChunkyMonkey]

I feel more confident every day that the country to roll on North Korea will be China.

We don't have the willpower, South Korea won't risk the wholesale destruction of their capital, and China's interests in long term stability and trade practically compel them to move. Rush in, disassemble the ruling hierarchy, install a puppet government to keep everything running, and the American/South Korean military off their doorstep. They'll wait as long as they can, trying to help the North Koreans get everything together, before everything goes down.

China will bide its time until the right moment, then everything unravels practically overnight.

+1

[trlcavscout]

I think it's a good thing that Truman prevented MacArthur from nuking the chinese.

but leaving the situation unresolved was a serious mistake.

however, lil kim is dying for a fight. he keeps trying to pick one and giving him what he wants is just stupid.

maybe the solution is to go to the chinese and tell them if they don't help us fix this mess we'll cut off all imports. a world war would help fix our economy. hehe

They dont wanna fight, they are the yapping chihuahua sitting on the porch. They know if they yap enough people will feed them. He wouldnt back down and lose face, but he wont bite off more then he can chew. And the south doesnt wanna fight either they have to much to lose. I agree that China will cool them off again for economic reasons like before. What would they do if we didnt buy all their lead paint glasses and cheap wal mart crap?

[BushMasterBoy]

A few Chinese divisions of tanks, some air support, and a million Chinese infantry would easily take North Korea. North Korea setting off a nuclear weapon in a war, with prevailing winds would leave the fallout over Beijing, sickening many.
Don't be surprised if China takes Pyongyang, US would not object. Gives China additional valuable real estate and access to direct trade with Republic of Korea.

If I was Premier of China, I would invade DPRK and keep it. If was POTUS I'd help them take it.
It is a win, win, situation for PRC & USA because North Korea is a problem for both nations.