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Some of us actually have the means and skills to support the habit.Originally Posted by DirtyHarry
BTW if the base price for an M700 is too rich for your blood, I guess I can see where you're comin from.
-Mike
"I have to return some video tapes"
I've been wanting to get into a nice .308 long distance bolt rifle for some time, but two things stand in my way.
First, is the money. Yup, I'm poor and the wife doesn't want me buying any more guns (I'm getting sneaky though and starting to buy stripped lowers that I can slowly build up).
Secondly, as a lefty shooter it's damned difficult to find a left-handed bolt; particularly in .308. When I do find something, I don't have the funds to acquire it.
I love the rifles you guys have posted pics to.
GCrookston - all I can say it WOW. You made me drool! I'm envious.
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Have not gotten to play with this one at any distance yet. Only took it up to the north site once before they closed the site down. Did well for the limited distance at that range. I'm hoping it will turn out to be a good shooter for distance.
It is a Cobb MCR with a 24" Lothar Walther heavy barrel out front. Up top on the rail is a 6.5x20x52 piece of glass. I dropped a Chip McCormick Super Match Trigger Group in it, so there is virtually no travel, smooth as silk and breaks at just under 3 lbs.
This setup sits on a (needed) bi-pod, and has a quad rail for hanging everything but the kitchen sink on it. (nothing on it.....yet) The back consists of a 6 position collapsible stock. Not real satisfied with that, looking for a better stock. Anyone have any suggestions?
Hope to get this out pretty soon, and sling some lead long distance. I'm curious how it (I) will do.
Here you go for a lefty bolt gun. And it doesn't cost anymore than the righty. It has an accutrigger and accustock. I have not done anything to it except put Burris XTR bases, rings, and scope on it. Very accurate out of the box. I actually like the looks of the rifle. It stands out among all the 700's. It is easily capable of .5 moa groups.
And more M1A porn. Supermatch Springfield M1A built by Glen Nelson in 1995. Versa-pod bipod with Versa-pod sling swivel adaptor, Smith Enterprise scope mount, all GI parts except reciever, barrel (Douglas heavy match), and the heavy wood stock (bedded). In my opinion, worth every penny spent on this Last of the Steel Warriors.
The M1A is now my service rifle. And it shoots sub MOA groups. So yes... M1A's can be very accurate out of the box.
Southpaw right eye dominant? Or do you find optics mounting on the M1A's are just too damn high too? I have my M3 mounted about as low as I can and its up a bit too high for me.And more M1A porn. Supermatch Springfield M1A built by Glen Nelson in 1995. Versa-pod bipod with Versa-pod sling swivel adaptor, Smith Enterprise scope mount, all GI parts except reciever, barrel (Douglas heavy match), and the heavy wood stock (bedded). In my opinion, worth every penny spent on this Last of the Steel Warriors.
The M1A is now my service rifle. And it shoots sub MOA groups. So yes... M1A's can be very accurate out of the box.
-Mike
"I have to return some video tapes"
Graves, Southpaw; getting the scope down / proper eye relief was an issue I resolved with mine. Originally I'd installed a Brookfield and A.R.M.S. #22 rings. After some trial and error I ended up with the A.R.M.S. #18 and MK4 rings. Removing the rear sight and using a Fulton cheek rest.... BTW, many of the NOS GI NM parts in my rifle, including the Fajen stock, were purchased from Glenn Nelson for my build....
The first pictures shows how high it originally was (about 2000):
Swapping Mount:
Swapping Rings:
Sight-in target with new rings, (3) 3 shot groups @ 100 yrds. Counter clockwise from bottom, making adjustments between each group.
That was the setup a few years ago. When I had the scope on it I switched the stock to a USGI fiberglass and put a Desert Warrior Products cheekrest on it. I couldn't bring myself to drill holes in the beautiful wood stock. It is now my competition service rifle. Working on accumulating parts for another one in the scout configuration. That one will have a scope on it.
I can help you get something set up that shouldn't cost too much...PM me if you'd like to discuss what's out there.
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So who's bashing Savage? Don't cry about it bc you see more M700's here now as I'm sure more Savage owners will post. Personally I have 0 trigger time with one so I can't say anything there but of the Remmy's I do have (700p in .300wm and a 700sps tac in .308) I can say they're hard to beat for the money. I did however go the "wannabe GI-Joe" route and ditch the X-Mark Pro's (which are pretty nice for OE triggers) for Jewell's and I still had some milk money left over
ETA: I'm no "e-baller" by any stretch of the imagination, I know all too well how it is to not have the coin to get the things you want so I totally respect that. But to call folks out for going check to check to afford the things they have when you have absolutely no clue as to where their financial standing is = not cool.
Last edited by Graves; 12-06-2010 at 00:38.
-Mike
"I have to return some video tapes"
... I've owned 700s and 112s and 12s. In my experience nothing beats a Savage for out-of-the-box accuracy. Unlike the 700s I've had, I've honestly never had any need to tinker with them to squeeze out more accuracy (though I do lightly de-bur the triggers on the pre-accutrigger models I've owned).
Savage doesn't lend itself to customization and building like the 700, probably because it simply does not need it and they are so friggin' ugly who'd want to? Savages are not very sexy. The 700 beats them in the 'pretty' department.
But my next bolt gun will be another Savage.
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